"As far as Columbus he was a pirate"
Technically, that is a true statement.
"As for Bruce,could anyone possibly be more boring?"
Based on his record sales and long-time popularity, the answer is also yes.
I am ambivalent regarding Springsteen myself. I like him at times and he has some classic tunes but I am also often bored by him as well.
If I had to choose between foregoing either Dylan or Springsteen, I'm afraid it would be "Bye Bye Boss". |
OK, now everyone has to choose. All card-carrying audiophiles must register one way or the other and will be monitored for listening out of registration.
I do agree with Audiofeil about apples and oranges. I think of Dylan as more of a poet/musician and Springsteen as a musician/songwriter. |
Dylan is also a superior Kvetcher.
Being a superior Kvetcher is not necessarily a good thing. |
I think the reason why Bruce is so polarizing is due to his politics. No one begrudges Mick Jagger for being a "Rock Star" because he doesn't try to be anything else. He is what he is.
There is nothing worse than a conservative politician shoving family values down my throat and then getting caught playing footsies in the bathroom stall. Except, when liberals, worth hundreds of millions of dollars try to tell me to drive a hybrid as they run around in jets. I agree with Cleaneduhippy, it's hypocrisy. |
"I got the fortunes of heaven in diamonds and gold
I got all the bonds baby that the bank could hold
I got houses 'cross the country honey end to end
And everybody buddy wants to be my friend
Well I got all the riches baby any man ever knew
But the only thing I ain't got honey..."
A - no respect
B - a private life
C - political credibility
It must be tough being a superstar! |
I like both Springsteen and Dylan.
They are related but different.Comparisons are difficult for a variety of reasons but to suggest Springsteen isn't fit to carry Dylan's guitar is wrong, badly wrong.
Both have incredible strong suits and both have flaws.
Dylan is less controversial (mostly) because he remained apolitical Springsteen has upset a lot of Americans by being very political.
In both cases you need to look beyond the surface, the myth and the popular conceptions-if you do that you will be deeply rewarded.
However Audiophiles in the main go surface deep with music and throw about glib statements and are stained with deep prejuidices a lot of the time...in the main and that's not aimed at you Audiofeil as you appear to understand music in the main. |
My issue is that I think that Springsteen wants to be Dylan, and always has. He's not.
I've seen Bruce live a number of times, and once I get past the hype and ego and the "Jersey", I think he's great live. But I've also seen Dylan - Bob Dylan sang "He Was a Friend of Mine" - and Springsteen, you're no Dylan. |
I will try to sort this out:
Bob:
Zimmie. MN. NY Coffee Houses. Baez. The Band. Traitor.
Motorcycle Crash. Sarah. Divorce. Eyeliner. Jesus. No Jesus. Tours. Daniel Lanois. Victoria's Secret. No Super Bowl.
Bruce:
Boss. NJ. NY Clubs. Ski Cap and Wife Beater. Wordy songs.
Chevys. Darkness. More Darkness. Hit Machine. Wedding. Divorce. Remarry. Sack Band. Nu Soul. Film Scores. Rehire Band. Tours. Super Bowl.
:) |
Whilst Springsteen has clearly been influenced by Dylan-he certainly doesn't want to be him, he has carved his own route.
Utter nonsense. |
OK, maybe I engaged in a little hyperbole, and, yes, Bruce has carved his own route. But I think there's a lot of truth in what I said.
Nobody is Dylan, and I can't think of somebody better to aspire to be. Bruce didn't invent it, but, yes, has refined it to his own style. It seems that 98% of his fans don't see that, and think that Bruce originated it. I realize I'm shifting my argument from the artist to his fans, but so be it.
I stand by my opinion, including the facts that Bruce is extremely talented, a great songwriter, and great live. |
how can anyone imagine that Springsteen and Dylan can be compared? Why would you want to? When I think Dylan I think folk music icon and when I think Springsteen I think radio personality. apples and oranges IMO |
I think 1 recording of our scared music should be used before games.....I am tired of it sounding like "Show time at the Apollo" or other often silly takes on a National Anthem......its sad. |
"how can anyone imagine that Springsteen and Dylan can be compared? Why would you want to? When I think Dylan I think folk music icon and when I think Springsteen I think radio personality. apples and oranges IMO"
I agree totally.
We do it because it's fun and interesting! |
Hey I'm a Springteen fan and their were no signs of Dylan at the Super Bowl. However, I can't understand why Bruce and Little Stevie/Silvio thought it would be fun to perform as Mick Jagger and Keith Richards instead of themselves. It got even more interesting when Bruce began to spin his guitar around his shoulder. I think he was sending a message to Steven Tyler! |
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Pardon jumping across types of music and across the centuries...but, Dylan vs. Springsteen is a little like comparing Mozart to Beethoven. Both are great, but I prefer one over the other most days of the week.
As it so happens, Dylan has a new album (OK gave away my age... a new CD) coming out at the end of April. |
I just revisited this thread and read the responses. Many are right, Bruce has always tried to write like Dylan, and
he just isn't! Noone is. However, to say that Springsteen's
name should not be used in the same sentence (as Audiofeil
said) as Dylan's, is well...ridiculous! |
I really enjoyed Bruce's performance at the Super Bowl. One of the better shows in recent years. He had great energy and just nailed it. I thought to myself if that is what he could do in an abbreviated performance his concerts must be unbelieveable. Now I know why a lot of my co-workers would make sure to see the Boss whenever he was performing. |
