@ghasley I concur and look forward to taking this message to other audiophiles about this companies unethical business practices.
Best regards.
Mitigating the Bubble
Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage. While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .
I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses. I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s. ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.
So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system. Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage.
I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency.
Tom
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@arcticdeth Your post was quite musical itself. Here - i've turned it into a found poem of sorts:
"Magic Sauce" by Arcticdeth
magic sauce. snake oil reds cure all lineament, just 2 sips a day, you will be vigil and feel better than you ever have. some of this stuff is plain silly, people who open their wallets for thousands for vaseline mixed w a little food coloring applied to a wall plug. same as the 500 dollar power cord, its called hype truth, you imagine the 500 bills you dropped on a power cord will actually make trumpets circle your ears with magical ability to render you motionless, to add 2 more inches to mr. happy.
from your (80% homes) breaker box, you have 12ga wiring throughout your home, thousands of feet running upstairs, down, all over, yet a 10awg cord will suddenly transform your shotty house wiring into a magic conduit from which unicorns shoot rainbow chocolate kaka rings through your body, giving you such elation that you spent 5oo$ on a power cord, which oddly enough might give you rapture of the eardrums and make mr chub come out to play. |
Reading through this post, this @nano-flo shyster shipped and charged our victim for 5 cables when he only ordered 2. Being the unethical businessman that Chris is claimed it was a glitch in the system. Zero integrity and it appears to be flat out theft on the part of Chris. I will be linking this thread over on other high traffic audiophile forums.
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Chris, I certainly don’t mean to come off as if I know everything and I hope no one objective thinks that. I do know unscrupulous, flippant and unethical when I see it.
You never answer questions when posed and when you make a commitment to post objective test results, you never follow through. How is an unwitting purchaser of your innovative (cough, cough) power cord supposed to use it a second time? Does one just slather some more Vaseline on?
Seriously Chris, you are coming off at best as completely short sighted and unethical and I can sure see how some might arrive at a far worse conclusion about your character. You should refund the money as you offered the money back guarantee. Until you do, you sure do come off as …. Formerly in the business of vaseline covered off the shelf power cables priced to insult those intelligent enough to know better.
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Good morning Nano Chris, I hope you woke up today and decided to honor your money back guarantee for the cables @glory purchased from and returned to you. Until glory posts that you processed his rightful refund, I and others will post each day to bring attention to your poor behavior. I’ll pose a few more questions which you will likely not answer: have there been other returns where you honored you money back guarantee?
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In the StereoTimes Review there is the following statement "NS Holographic 3D6 AC cords are said to be fully treated with Audiogon-tested NanoTube™ superconductive gel from end to end.[including the exterior nickel-plated brass contacts and outside surface of the cable insulators".
Per the reviewer’s statement would one not expect that the supposed "full" efficacy of the cable can simply be "corrected" by reapplying the gel to the brass contacts if it came off? The statement says that the contacts are not the only area of the cable to be treated. Not following the whole one time insertion/no movement, contamination, etc. narratives assuming that the entire cable is in fact treated with this gel.
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@glory may have purchased the “original” version which was literally a $5 or $10 that anyone can buy from Home Depot or True Value Hardware freeby type sealed/molded power cord with the the Nano-Vaseline juice applied at the ends. Anyway, its way above our heads this amazing technology. It takes someone like Chris, with no hifi experience and no hi end rig to develop something like this. At least I know there is a place for those who fail at selling aluminum siding or pet insurance.
Careful who you endorse @theaudiotweak and mikeg. Character matters. Chris has failed to show any thus far but the day is young. |
Is this practice that you recommended earlier in the thread the reason @glory can’t get his refund. Chris, is your cable a single use cable or is “driving the nano in” no longer your tried and true method?
To be quite honest, I can’t believe this community didn’t read the original drivel and claims and laugh you out of the forum. It’s now painfully obvious you were trying to behave like a fly by night fast buck carnival huckster only now there are real people being damaged by your poor business ethics on display. Maybe with the money you don’t refund you can lube a bridge or make a top fuel dragster exceed the speed of light.
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It is clearly above everyone's heads. I contacted our design and application engineers as well as service engineers in our wind energy channel and no one, I mean no one at GE or Siemens, SKF, NSK or Timken have any knowledge of this shyster Nano-Flo Chris Arnold, his product or company. Per his press release (link) He has offered $10,000,000.00 to UPS, FedEx.... in a grant to use his products. (read here) to date no takers: The entire premise of his companies are a scam. He mus be related to Sam Bankman-Fried
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In addition, as I am in our OE Mobile channel, I have reached out to Nissan, Tesla, Ford, GM, Lucid, PACCAR, Volvo, DTNA and none of these companies (all in EV) have any knowledge of this company or person.
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Strange how silent the Nano-Flo fanboys are being. I’m willing to suspend disbelief and posit that the Vaseline goop achieves their individual sonic goals but I can’t believe how they stand by and remain quiet while a product they championed is an ethical trap for any potential customer. Absolute silence. How unfortunate. Situational character and ethics on full display here and yet, the glowing infomercial remains up on Stereo Times. File that one away too folks.
At least Stereo Times could add a footnote that speaks to…. “Do not count on the money back guarantee that might seem to make this a risk free proposition. You are counting on the ethics of the vendor which can be notoriously unreliable with companies that are either unwilling to honor their word or worse, are financially not viable from the start. As a data point, we didn’t have to pay bupkiss for the products we featured in this shameful infomercial and, in fact, we receive free products and sometimes other monetary and non-monetary consideration. Please don’t think less of us for doing so!”
Read this in the latest Absolute Sound where the author somewhat explains what may be happening in reviews.
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Among the numerous reputable international firms you mention, one jumps out. Timken is the worlwide leader in precision bearings. How on earth do they stay in business without integrating Nano-Flo? LOL.
Chris, the house is on fire…don’t you think you should refund @glory and return to more fertile pastures like the drag strip or truck stop lube operations? |
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I can only imagine the reaction from real scientists, physicists and engineers. LOL.
@nano-flo are you up yet processing refunds or are you channeling the late John McAfee for guidance? |
Interesting. I have no horse in this race, but part of me thinks back to the two scientists who supposedly achieved cold fusion back in the late 1980’s -- and who were quickly debunked and disgraced (and silenced as well). I've always wondered if they were just too far ahead of their time to be accepted by the powers-that-be. Still, what struck me from the press releases was the College of DePage - a statewide Illinois community college system ranked firmly in the anonymous middle of national and state-wide rankings. I know, great things can be found in unremarkable places, but this coupled with the dubious writing of the releases does not lend itself well to Enterprise’s ethos. |
@simao I agree on the College of DuPage. With Northwestern, Purdue, Notre Dame, U of I, UIC all in his backyard..... |
I don’t have a horse in this race nor does @jerryg123 but the smugness on display by @nano-flo and his ethical challenges merits outrage from the Audiogon community. His handlers deserve some ire as well although they are quietly in the background. Chris hasn’t built one single cable, he doesn’t have the skill. So, who has? Who tweaked him by suggesting hey, instead of bottling your worthless Vaseline gel, lets tie it to a product for the gullable (sorry @glory no intent to denigrate) and fleece them out of some real cash. Chris being who he seemingly is thought PAYDAY! If he had some brains and desire to keep his charade perpetual, he wouldn’t have spent any of the $$$ and anticipated this kind of circustance and promptly refunded glory’s money. That keeps the next set of potential victims in line for their chance at mystical Vaseline enlightenment.
I guarantee that the actual builder of the latest power cable is sitting quietly somewhere eating Cheetos (pun intended) anxiously watching this saga unfold. Each minute that passes without Chris refunding Glory is another second toward his house of cards collapsing. Once again, why aren’t ANY of the Nano-fanboys chiming in. I could at least respect them if they said something like “I have the Nano-Flo in a bottle, it works for me but Chris should do the right thing”. Same goes for Stero Times…where is their character??? |
Breaking News: NanoFlo HQ collapses. Sorry could not help it @ghasley
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Chris, if you've already spent Glory's money, at least man up and make payments. Maybe you can get an advance on your credit card. Jokes aside, this whole episode will cost you more than if you had just been honorable in your dealings. Its one thing to sell a mysterious elixir that may or may not provide value to those inclined to buy, its another entirely to not honor the money back guarantee you provided.
Chris, you do realize that threads like this live on forever on the internet right? The only time that shouldn't cause you to pause and rethink your apparent lack of strategy is if this was your final attempt to pull off something like this. Refund Glory's money and those others who have requested same. Glory just happens to belong to an active hobbyist community and forums like these can prove invaluable, both good to the potential consumer and bad to the occasional bad actor.
Think about it, anyone who Googles Nano-Flo, Chris Arnold and Enterprise Coatings this thread (and others) will pop up. They will either see that a misunderstanding was handled or they will see that it wasn't. The ball is in your court. |
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So, @nano-flo why would Greg Abbott, Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos take you up on this ridiculous offer? Your website and press releases were done by a 6-year-old, and you do not have $10,000,000.00 if you did you would refund Glory. You need to stay in the shallow end of the pool. You are not even a man, you are a grifter, selling snake oil! Total fraud. Carpetbagger. |
You made a mistake in this process, you trusted someone unworthy of your trust. Your best course of action is to dispute the charge and the transaction with EBAY, Paypal and your credit card provider.
Chris has visions of grandeur and an inflated sense of self. He won’t be backing down unless its painful. Even then, he may not because he is doubling down on his vision...whatever it may be. Explore legal remedies, take snapshots of his webpage and any communications he may have sent or been a party to. The same goes for texts and forum posts. Its highly likely he may have committed some variation of fraud. He has certainly breached the contract, your job is to ensure you have done what was required of you in the transaction. You may have other remedies as well through EBAY in addition through your local consumer protection agency. Depending on how vindictive you want to get, did he charge you sales tax and does your state require it? Most do so it might be interesting to get his name on their radar.
Chris, I would be curious how you contacted Gov Abbot and for what purpose a "$10mm service contract" would be offered. Was there an RFP to which you responded or does your product cure the power grid of shortcomings? I can see how Musk might have been distracted but I am shocked that Bezos didn’t do a deal with you!
To anyone considering doing business with Chris Arnold, Nano-Flo or Enterprise Coatings, please read this thread starting about page 12. If you proceed, you are doing so at your own risk. Stick a fork in this one... Nano-Flo is an ethically challenged money trap. |
@glory ,
I am sure you set up a claim with EBAY? They will have a record of the posting as it appeared on the date you purchased. That he sent 5, not the 3 ordered (ebay will never screw this up), will already make Ebay suspicious. He has also changed his listing and is attacking you in that listing. I have been using Ebay for decades and have never seen that behavior. Shocking. That will also not sit well with Ebay. They will pull the listing. You may have to get on the phone and sit on hold, but you can get a real person. I am shocked someone would put this in an ebay listing:
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/165806057820
I just skimmed a good portion of the thread @ghasley. You called this one early. I see a few others were calling this correct as well. I also saw promoters. They should be sending @glory checks. They are complicit. Glory, I cut and pasted that from Ebay. I suggest taking a screen shot. |
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This is an absolute, Vaseline filled clown car of a "business venture". In 24 hours you managed to take something shady but still able to operate on the periphery into a radioactive, probably wont sell another cable kind of "enterprise". Thats good for those who might have made the mistake of clicking buy it now. Simply amazing.
Here’s another simple question Chris that you will never answer: Who, besides you, has a vested interest in the selling and marketing of these $10 cables?
Are you going to refund @glory ? Courts tend to frown on those who try to change the terms of an agreement after an agreement was already made. |
Flo could have sold the returned cables at 2/3 off retail price @ $2,250.00 vs now retail $7.5K. Most used gear buyers are looking to pay 60% to 75% off retail. Before this mess Flo could have listed the two used cables and sold them faster at $2.3K than $7.5K and made $1.5K. I paid $1.5K per cable.
Now that he has shown himself to be unethical no one will buy his cables. He has posted the returned cables back to me but I will not open the box nor receive them.
The Gary Anderson on Aug 22 was not me but another Phile with the same name asking to buy his goop. This Gary Anderson has a different email address than mine. He assumed it was me but it was not.
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