TIDAL is calling their files of my songs Masters. But TIDAL’s MQA files are not my masters. I make my masters - not TIDAL. I made my masters the way I wanted them to sound. If TIDAL referred to their titles as TIDAL MASTERS, I would have no problem, but they don’t. They call them Masters. I had my music removed from that platform. They are not my masters.”.
The World Health Organization’s European chief has cautioned against implementing coronavirus vaccine mandates, unless every other feasible option has been tried to convince people to get jabbed.
Hans Kluge, WHO regional director for Europe, said that countries shouldn’t mandate vaccination unless they had first reached out to communities. “Mandates around vaccination are an absolute last resort and only applicable when all other feasible options to improve vaccination uptake have been exhausted.”
So the WHO has signalled forced vaccinations are coming, now what happens to people that still refuse? To people that are still holding out, the only thing we can hope for is that a big enough portion of the public wakes up and stop this from happening.
As much as I love Hi-Fi Audio, my sound system... I care more about my freedoms and bodily autonomy. I'll leave this thread to others, I've said everything I wanted to say 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤
Yes you are right...At first glance it seems so indeed... This is an audio forum...
But we have an excuse : democracy, freedom a world wide crisis a fascist orientation of democracies ... is it not enough to be mad?
Do yo have the minimal emotional intelligence to be wise enough and not rant against ranting people you consider mad?
Change thread if you are so disturbed... is it not simple? Or are you a ranting children with no motives to rant at all save annoying concerned people here?
There is a reason why i rant....In this Senile Neil Young thread about censorship....
I’m whining because a few of you rant and rant and rant and rant and rant and then rant some more. Do you not have the emotional intelligence to know what’s appropriate and what’s not?
There is a reason why i rant....In this Senile Neil Young thread about censorship....
It can't be censorship unless its the government censoring. In this case, its a contractual dispute between parties. Simple...Spotify can comply or not, Neil Young can withdraw his music or not. Its just not a big deal.
You point is completely wrong...Not it is not wrong it is worst than that, your point is an half truth than worst than a lie...
So beside the point that if you dont know why you are unable to understand anything in this crisis...
It can’t be censorship unless its the government censoring
Why do you think there is universal ban over anyone who ever spoke against basic low cost treatment not only in official news media but by all big tech corporation likegoogle, tweeter and the like? Corporations has the right now to decide about truth?
Do you live in a Walt Disney World of your own ?
The US is all about censorship, open your TV set please...And think... Why do you think it is so?
not because Biden order it at all it is because those who are behind the wheel are the big corporations...Biden is a puppet, like Trudeau, like Marcon ...Xi is not a puppet nor Putin they are dictators...There is no democracy in an oligarchy corporate direction of the North america....Why do you think all vaccinated Truckers in canada are protesting?
Neil Young falsely accusing of misinformation top world renown scientists is one thing , but appealing to ban any site who will give them a voice because Neil Young said so is another thing completely...
What is the matter here has nothing to do with the right of Neil Young to keep or retire his music from spotify NOTHING at all...Nothing to do with contract right...
Are you able to understand these simple facts?
In this case, its a contractual dispute between parties
@mahgisterrespectfully, just because you want THIS situation to be more than what it is doesn't make it so. I'm not saying you don't have a right to be outraged at all of the things that outrage you, I'm merely saying Neil Young said to Spotify "Take down my stuff if this is OK with you". If I were CEO of Spotify, I would have said "OK". Not because I believe in Joe Rogan but because I believe it isn't Neil Young's place. Young has a right to not be on the platform, honorably so. Spotify has a right to say no thank you, honorably so. This just isnt a big deal.
The essential fact is not for Neil Young the right to keep or retire his music...He could have done so in another way...His intention was CENSORING appeal against Rogan free voice and top world scientists opinion ...
the essential fact IS his PUBLIC claim about misinformation accusation and his appeal to ban Joe Rogan by setting a public example with his action... It is not a contract freedom right at all here the problem...
I am outraged by the general censorship everywhere...You dont even see it at all... WHY ?
I’m merely saying Neil Young said to Spotify "Take down my stuff if this is OK with you".
A word of unsolicited advice, if you can't say it in 32 bars, then it ain't worth saying. Of to put it another way -- "I'd write a shorter letter if I had more time."
By the way i dont fear this virus at all after 2 times...
I lived through it... Some 1% died who catch it for sure...
This is a dangerous virus no question about that here it is not a flu...
But studying the reports world wide i am in fear right now, and terrified about the long term effects of the vaccines itself on health which begin to manifest world wide now......Only uninformed people dont know that...
NOBODY, no doctors even doctors of international reputation can speak about their discoveries of this negative very dangerous effect of the mRna vaccines ... Chicken brain here call them anti vaxxers thats all...
I dont post about that here because most people dont have a clue about anything they dont READ and study simply......It is like audio they upgrade because all people do it they dont study acoustic...
I posted ONLY about the forced MASSIVE insane undemocratic unscientific measure taken in north America like in Chinese dictatorship : confinement and imposed massive vaccinations... Instead of low cost preventive treatment which are all BANNED here, and vaccination targetting only at risk people...Instead of this sane course we imitated China...
But if you think that this virus was dangerous wait till the long term effects of this vaccines appear completely to sight... It is already manifesting but not ON OFFICIAL NEWS...
Guess why?
Calling top doctors making autopsies of dead vaccinated people deluded will not help here...
Calling the official report of US army false will not help either...
Calling all people who work but say the opposite of corporate paid puppets will not help either...
i prefer to trust nobel medecine Luc Montagnier than crook Fauci... A proven crook save for the american public deluded by the power of his news media . ...
Whether someone is Vax or anti-vax, whether someone's had Covid or not...most people don't care. They certainly don't care to debate "alternative facts" when they hold the opposite or dissimilar views. I just don't share the "hair-on-fire" outrage that others seem to on either side of this issue.
For the record, I'm thrice vaccinated and I'm tired of masks too. I just don't get too wound up about anything other than trying to keep moving forward. I hold no ill will toward anyone who feels whatever they feel. I am weary of the same old futile "get off my lawn" arguments.
Neil is within his rights to cancel a contract. Period. That's not censorship, its a choice. He's just notifying anyone who will listen that he does not want to be associated with someone that he feels is misinforming the general public (for profit, shock profit) on an issue that can have severe consequences for some.
Another who dont undestand the difference between the end of commercial contract and a POLTICAL PUBLIC appeal to censordhip against 2 scientists and ACCUSING them of criminals desinformation with NO background in science to do so...He even never listened to them this last 6 hours...
Neil is within his rights to cancel a contract. Period. That’s not censorship, its a choice. He’s just notifying anyone who will listen that he does not want to be associated with someone that he feels is misinforming the general public (for profit, shock profit) on an issue that can have severe consequences for some.
Wow this thread has gone off the rails, but I have a friend who is a working virologist. I can’t relay how amazing it is to speak with someone in the field and get updates to the rapidly growing knowledge base, as he sometimes contradicts what he said a few months ago, as the science progresses. No agenda’s, no media pundits, no politicians, no corporations, just pure empirical data (of course it has to be interpreted, and perhaps there are varying thoughts on that)
Get a virologist friend today! Maybe you can share your knowledge of audio with them.
Very simple you pick many you trust and instead of one you have ten...
This is only one : Didier Raoult.... one of the Top virologist in the world...
I go with what he say and many others virologist say the same thing than him...
Then saying that this thread content is all void because you have a virologist friend means what?
many virologists go with their story for their own sake... Being a virologist dont make you an independant completely true and free scientist...
What do you think pay for many virologists research and fund?
mass inforced vaccinations of all people for a coronavirus is stupid, especially with an untested technology...If you think this technology was tested before you are deluded...
No need to be a virologist to know, any simple doctor know, that we must treat people if available drug are there... They were banned not by virologists though guess why whom?
Vaccination make sense for at risk people, especially with this virus...because all the other can be treated with simple existing drugs that were all banned for sure...
no need to be friend with a virologist to know that...
Of course it was an attempt at censorship by Young. We can get hung up on the details of whether his actions were “technically” censorship or not, but his intent was clear. He did not simply (and honorably) walk away from Spotify in protest; he gave them an ultimatum…me, or Rogan. There is no doubt in my mind that Young, due to the typical overblown sense of self importance held by some artists, especially the aging ones in search of relevance, was shocked (to say the least) that Spotify would choose Rogan over him. Then, being unsuccessful, he doesn’t stop there. Now he is encouraging those working for Spotify to jump ship and leave their place of employment so as to “save their souls”. Really? Overblown sense of self importance.
Whether someone is Vax or anti-vax, whether someone's had Covid or not...most people don't care. They certainly don't care to debate "alternative facts" when they hold the opposite or dissimilar views. I just don't share the "hair-on-fire" outrage that others seem to on either side of this issue.
+1. When I read the dramatic outrage some share here, I sometimes wonder: Who are they trying to convince?
hate to say it my friend but you have jumped the shark per se. You discredit scientists you disagree with like Dr. Fauci then come right back and criticize others for doing same to the ones you like.
I know you are smart and fair and will realize this. Perhaps do not be so fast on the trigger when posting. Don’t let your emotions replace rational thought.
Also I much prefer your embedding related posts here. At least that has relevance to the purpose of the site and just in case perhaps you are wrong about something, no big deal. Its only hifi, not people’s health and well being.
Regarding Neil Young, he can’t censor…private citizens can’t officially censor any more than they can force adoption of new digital format….PONO anyone? Did anyone feel threatened by PONO?
Rrespectfully @mahgister, you might consider a different approach as it is futile to expect others to align with your way of thinking on this enless Covid conspiracy loop. Isnt it time that we recognize that this quasi-debate fatigue is a thing….that the same old arguments from differing data sets is unproductive? All it accomplishes is those fully invested in the dialogue get nowhere? If one person cites a Nobel Laureate in their argument, they believe that should be the intellectual equivalent of the mic drop. The Nobel committee is far from perfect..(Moniz received the Nobel for the lobotomy LOL).
You often refer to your extensive study of philosophy…it might be of some comfort to revisit Stoic Philosophy.
I greatly appreciate your honesty and humility and wise attitude...
You are right for sure about me...
But in this critical situation now that most people dont even imagine i have an excuse for my rant here against censorhip and indoctrination by fear...Perhaps if you are right with my unwise rant i am right about the general situation..
By the way my posts were against forced mass vaccinations remember, not against targetted at risk people vaccinations which is necessary ... And about treatment that were criminally banned... It is my only excuse...And on that i am right...
hate to say it my friend but you have jumped the shark per se. You discredit scientists you disagree with like Dr. Fauci then come right back and criticize others for doing same to the ones you like.
I know you are smart and fair and will realize this. Perhaps do not be so fast on the trigger when posting. Don’t let your emotions replace rational thought.
Also I much prefer your embedding related posts here. At least that has relevance to the purpose of the site and just in case perhaps you are wrong about something, no big deal. Its only hifi, not people’s health and well being.
You are right about this thread now...I will not post other answers....Save if someone attack me...
By the way a PUBLIC appeal to censorship of scientists of different voices is WORST than censoring someone or something for ourself...
i need stoic philosophy you are right about that...
But you need to inform yourself about the actual greatest crisis in totalitarian control... It is not conspiracy theory... It is not even conspiracy at all... the big corporations DONT HIDE their goal at all.... But people dont read...
They dont know that Trudeau made his apprentiship in politic like Macron at Davos under Klaus Schwab...The great priest of transhumanist ONE world government and no more privacy for anyone like China ...... It is not a conspiracy it is a process that begun under your eyes and not hidden at all...
My deepest respect for you...
Regarding Neil Young, he can’t censor…
You often refer to your extensive study of philosophy…it might be of some comfort to revisit Stoic Philosophy.
Fair enough to be alert to motives of big corporations.
I will say though that not all are evil. I’ve worked for a fairly large financial services firm for 25 years now. Many people would know the name and may well be customers. The industry is highly regulated and people are held to a high standard in regards to ethics and doing the right thing for both the business AND the customers. We provide a service that many would be much worse off without and am proud of that. My job is to help keep the systems running....
Not a fan of the big drug companies and how they gouge people in need for profit. I suspect we agree on that.
Money is probably in fact the root of all evil. Money and the quest for power. Nothing new there! I think most people get that.
I thought we all agreed that anyone who doesn't want to get the vaccine should consult with their doctor. Forget all the arguments from pundits and politicians and government agencies and statistics with their various spins.
If you have a doctor and trust them, you consult with them and if they say you shouldn't get the vaccine, they can provide a note showing a medical reason why which will allow you the privilege of the vaccinated.
If you don't have a doctor you trust, get one. If not, you deserve what you get.
Please can we now end this Monty Python sketch/discussion?
To clear, this whole thing is not and was never about, vaccine misinformation on Joe’s show. The JRE offers a platform where people, if they choose, can give dialogue that differs with the Left.
The Left wants to remove any and all such platforms which provide people that opportunity. Mainstream Media is a Leftist propaganda delivery device and the Left wants it to be your only source of "information."
devilboy is very concerned about the woke Left and asks cleeds to wake up but if cleeds is the woke Left is he not awake? Or has he yet to be awoken? These labels are so confusing.
"A fairly undignified testament of one’s faith to accuse anyone who confronts it with facts to be paranoid."
A concise, accurate, reasoned and restrained, objective, and thoughtful explanation of such an ignorant, uninformed, and poorly considered observation by cleeds, as observation I offer without making opinion as to the actual accuracy of his comment taken by itself, which may have merit even if the supporting argument does not withstand scrutiny on its own merit.
Neil is very passionate about preserving his music the way he intended it to be. It’s 50 plus years of work they are trifling with and I don’t blame him one bit. The PONO player he had invented failed and the way he brought it about was to take Steve Jobs of Apple for a ride in his old car to hear it. Jobs was impressed and was all in, then he died. Neil then tried the go fund me route or some other fundraising platform and there wasn’t enough interest. I was looking forward to being able to take PONO with me on my motorcycle journeys.
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