Sonus Faber Upgrade worth it


Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from my Olympic Nova V to Serafino G2’s

Driving them with integrated amp, Luxman 509Z using Nordost connect and speaker wires

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I just finished a journey to select a new set of speakers, and my tastes landed squarely with Sonus Faber. I will try to convey my experience in what my ears, heart, and wallet experienced in that journey. This may be a bit long-winded, but hopefully it provides some insight into my navigation of a very similar question.

To start, I had a set of Martin Logan electrostats that I've always loved for their clarity and depth, but needed something with a wider dispersion and just simply worked better in the dual roles of 2-channel plus light home theater use in my living room. Initially I had gravitated toward Focal Maestro Utopias which are, of course, phenomenal speakers. However, I walked into my local SF dealer store and heard a set of speakers that brought me true joy: a set of Olympica Nova Vs.

The sound just had a special something that truly had me smiling ear-to-ear as I listened to many of my favorite songs. Steely Dan, Norah Jones, Art Pepper, Home Free, CSO playing Mahler 5 - all of these artists I have heard on dozens of speakers including stuff way above my means, but this was truly the first experience that truly connected me to the music. The highs were nearly as clear as my electrostats. The mids had a warmth and depth that allowed me to melt into the music. The bass was punchy, controlled, and extremely musical. The staging was wide, deep, and believable. These were everything I ever wanted in a speaker, and at a price point that was actually below those used Focals I mentioned.

The salesman had me come and listen to the Amati G5s they had set up in their listening room, and I listened to many of the same songs that had so captured my ears and heart on the Olympica Nova Vs. The result was a two-fold conclusion: a) Amatis had an even better mid/high range than the Olympicas - cleaner, clearer, sweeter, even more musical; and b) they lower end was tubby, flubby, loose, and the opposite of musical. There was something even more magical in that mid/high range that made me fall even more in love with the sound, but that low end: yuck.

What to do?

After much deliberation and discussion with other folks whose opinions I trust, I concluded that the Serafino G2s plus a couple of subwoofers would give me everything that I wanted. The Serafinos have the same midrange and tweeter as the Amati G5s, but with 180mm woofers similar to the Olympicas instead of the 220mm woofers. In my mind, the smaller woofers would be more easily controlled, and two 12" JLAudio E-subs would more than make up for the difference on the low end. The Serafinos are also easier to drive, meaning I didn't need to upgrade away from my beloved Goldmund SR150 amp @ 200w/4ohms. Your Luxman @ 220w/4ohms would have no trouble with the Serafinos.

I have been living with this setup now for about two weeks. While they aren't even fully broken in, I can confirm that my intuition seems quite correct on the sound profile and performance. The mid/highs are even better than what I heard in the Olympica Nova Vs, and the bass is punchy, but controlled and musical. These are truly turning out to be my "forever" speakers, and have that special something that I just didn't hear in any other speaker I auditioned.

So to your question of "is it worth upgrading" to the Serafinos: that's as complex a question as any. In my scenario, if I didn't have the benefit of the dual 12" subs (which I'd honestly recommend for any system, but I digress...), I think I might actually prefer that third woofer of the Olympicas over the Serafino's two. It really does add a lot of air movement and performance. However, the tipping point for me was that upper end. There's just something even more "Sonus Faber" about Homage line's upper range performance over the Olympica Nova. The Olympicas made me first fall in love with that sound, and the Homage made me actually pull the trigger.

My bottom line: The Serafinos + subs cost me a good bit more than the Olympica Nova Vs, but they were absolutely the right decision for my "end game" speakers. My ear-to-ear smile and warm every time I listen to these speakers make me truly thankful I had the means and opportunity to experience them.

Dependent a bit on the room size, but probability is very high. Likely to be tighter bass and more coherent and detailed sound. What is your room size?

 

I have owned Cremona M, Olympica, and Amati. The steps have always been significant. If your room is big perhaps used Amati or waiting for Amati might be worth it. My rule of thumb is to double the cost of carefully chosen pieces to avoid any questions about was it worth it. Olympica to Amati is unquestionable a huge jump... The coherence of the SF without a subwoofer is striking. I got rid of subwoofers when I went from Olyimpica to Amati.

@ghdprentice +1

I actually own both sets of these very speakers in two locations and compared them directly at the dealer before I purchased either.

The Olympica Nova series are very good. The Serafino is better in every meaningful metric: more coherent, smoother and more resolving while retaining all the musicality. That is no knock against the Olympica which are fully competitive in their price range.The Serafino is better - as it should be for the increased cost. Whether it’s worth it to you, I can’t say. To me in my primary system - easily.

A couple of things to consider.

The Olympicas have a directional rear port. The Serafino’s do not. This may or may not have any impact for you depending on your room configuration.

The Serafino’s are deeper in profile. You may need to pull them a bit further out into the room (or not) depending on your configuration and how the back wave from the port reflects off your back wall (if applicable).

Even if you don’t bi-wire the speakers (not necessary IMO), you’ll benefit from upgrading the jumper that connects the other binding posts. The Serafino’s are plenty transparent enough to reveal the benefit of doing so.

To the bass challenges @blockdaddy21 experienced with them - I suspect a poor room interaction the dealer hadn’t resolved. Or, they were using a lower quality amp or one with a low damping factor. The bass on the Serafino is better than on the Olymplca when compared in the same room, same setup. Significantly so. And in my room, no subs are needed as I get support from the back port and am enjoying fairly flat performance down to about 30 hz. I want for nothing in the bass region.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

In my experience, going up a line in a brand's offering yields improvements.  The Sara's are wonderful sounding speakers and will yield even more with a future amp  upgrade.