Totem Mani-2 vs Devialet Phantoms Gold


Hello 

Totems Mani-2 with good amplification or Active Devialet Phantoms Gold ( pair ) will give overall better sound in room about 25m2

I am a bass freak , but not only bass is important for me , liquid massive midrange and spacious sweet trebble is what i like too.

Devialets propably goes deeper , but what about quality of bass ?

Any other propose small speakers with big, bold sound ?

I know that legacy calibre and dutch & dutch has good opinions , but are ratlher out of budget.

Thanks for any opinions and advice

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Impossible to predict what speaker will give you greater pleasure! Only YOU can decide by listening!

I've owned the Mani-2s for about 15 years. I now use them in my workshop but they were in my main system for a while. The bass from such small enclosures is quite impressive But to achieve this low frequency performance, they are not very sensitive and need some good amplification. I was driving them with a Krell FPB-300 which worked very well. 

I don't have any experience with the Devialets. 

The Devialet is basically a lifestyle speaker the Mani-2 should handily best it in the bass and elsewhere. But as Jaytor mentions above it needs a powerful amp with a stiff power supply.

Devialet phantom gold go subsonic. They do sound excellent. bass is tight, from a sealed enclosure. Treble from a titanium dome is very nice.  Use clean power supply for better results. PS Audio Power Regenerator recommended.

Using high quality cables makes a difference!

I think @jond is right, the Mani with a good amp should be better. Maybe a bit more expensive. You do get a lot of bass from the Phantom, though.

Mani-2 appear to have been superseded by the Bison line here in Canada. Given your "bass freak" preference, you may be happier with the Bison. I am staggered by the bass my Totem Tribe Towers produced without giving up mids or highs. Worth a visit to a dealer to see if it ticks all the boxes.

Thanks for all opinions

sorry for long time absence ( holidays )

so I finally bought Mani-2

I have Devialets too

I will compare both

but I am looking for amplifier to Totems

two candidates:

1) Auris Fortissimo - push-pull A/AB 100watt 4/8 ohm tube amplifier ( in press review they said its really powerfull with good bottom extension )

2) NAT GM70 - SET 50 watt class A tube amplifier with beefy power supply

3) Gryphon Atilla - powerfull , high current 100/200watt 8/4 ohm solid state integrated famous for grip and deep bass control

I like tubes , but many people Herę on forum said that Mani-2 needs high current solid state

Some years ago I had Totems and try it with tubes but Audio Research VS55. (50watt ) and Mingda 805 monoblocks ( 40 watt SET) hasnt enough power to drive it, only Kronzilla was adequate ( but too expensive for me now )

Auris and NAT looks like to be powerfull with good power supply , but deeep bass with grip and impact is my prioritet, so maybe Gryphon famous for this will be better choice ?

What do You think

tote m s need power and control if you want a warmer sound add a tubed preamp

 

a hegel power amplifier has a very high damping factor 

 

stay away from a tube amplifier for an idobaric 

 

another killer amplifier is the new amped amplifiers they duplicate asviks velvety class D sound by employing an amplifier module from pascal

0 noise a rich midrangevand superiot bass and Dynamics 

Dave and Troy

Audio intellect Nj

 

I try to have a little coffee before trying to find the keys :) Always been impressed with the bass from Totem. Is it their drivers or attention to driver/box dimensions?

I ran Mani 2 for several years using primarily Plinius amps.  The 9100 was 125watts and just marginally ok.  Not until I used the 9200 with 200 watts did the Mani's open up.  I did try tubes but lower powered tube amps will not provide the bass you buy the Mani's for.  Stick with SS 200 + watts.  Class D wasn't an option when I had the  Mani's but i bet that some of the higher powered Class D amps that I've heard would be wonderful.