Veritas Cables a new brand that I found


Always been a big fan of smaller cable makers. I've had great luck in my system with brands like Audio Art, Cabledyne (RIP), Audio Sensibility, and Triode Wire Labs. These and others I'm surely forgetting seem to offer so much bang for the buck compared to the more mainstream brands. Not exactly cheap but usually a great value for what you get. It's noteworthy that most of these are most easily found by cruising Audiogon, US Audio Mart, Audiocircle, etc and if you only ever read Stereophile/TAS you'll probably never be exposed to all these great options. 

As with most people around here I've also had my fair share of Audioquest, Kimber, Shunyata, Cardas, Wireworld, MIT, and the rest of the big names. Some of those were very enjoyable but I have a hard time when I think about how big their marketing budgets are. And when my local dealer will always give me a deal for a very substantial discount, it makes me realize how inflated the regular pricing is. Not to mention I notice that many of these don't really get good until you move fairly high up the line, with their entry and mid priced options often being pretty uninspiring.

A few weeks ago I was browsing the various classifieds as I often do and stumbled across a name that was new to me. Turns out that's because they are new, period. Veritas Cables calls themselves a boutique hifi cable company specializing in small batch creations. That sounds reminiscent of early Black Cat Cable which they actually reference as an inspiration. This immediately caught my attention as I used to work with Chris Sommovigo at one point and loved his approach to building cables. The company had 3 items listed at the time: RCA interconnects, a power cable, and an ethernet cable. I liked what I saw but was actually in the market for an XLR interconnect, so I checked out their website (still under construction) which indicated more cables were coming soon. I figured it was worth an email inquiry to see what the time frame might be. 

I got a quick response stating that they had just completed a batch of XLR cables and while most were spoken for via local word of mouth sales, they did have one extra set they could sell me. The price was well within my target and actually much more affordable than the others I had been looking at (Audio Art Copper Cryo, Morrow Audio MA6,  Silnote Anniversary being the main contenders). So I took a chance on it, although with their in home trial terms it wasn't a huge gamble. They sent over an invoice with paypal and due to Veritas being in California like me the cable arrived very quickly.

When the company told me they don't use any fancy packaging, they weren't kidding. It was more like buying a second hand cable off a forum with no original packaging. But I've never cared about any of that stuff and would rather have that money go towards the actual product. In that sense I was not disappointed. Veritas calls this their Magnus cable and it shares design cues with the rest of their line I had seen listed on USAmart and the Veritas website. Specifically that means the use of a metallic silver braided jacket instead of the usual plastic or fabric sleeving most other cables have. This is the same approach used by Ed Bowman with his Cabledyne brand which I miss dearly. Back in the day my entire system was Cabledyne Reference Silver, then upgraded to their Vanguard line and was happy with that for quite a while. So I am very pleased to reintroduce a similar looking cable. That said the Veritas Magnus is somewhat thicker yet more flexible than the Cabledyne models which makes it easier to deal with.

Veritas doesn't come right out and list exactly what the internal composition is on their designs. When I asked directly they were happy to answer so it's not a complete secret, but I guess more of a marketing choice. Discussing this with them also reminded me of chatting with Ed Bowman, where there is clearly a lot of knowledge but also a desire to simplify things for a dumb end user like me. I tend to agree with their philosophy that says silver doesn't always have to sound bright and copper isn't always warm. Designers can do a lot based on geometry and purity and shielding and a dozen other factors to where a silver cable might actually be warmer and smoother than a copper cable. Or a copper cable might be more focused on speed and treble extension. Honestly I don't care as much about the specifics as I do about the end result, just give me an excellent performing cable no matter what it's made of. 

In any case to my eyes the Veritas Magnus looks every bit as well made as the other options I had been considering. Those range from $630 for the Audio Art, to $1250 for the Morrow, to $1500 for the Silnote, all for 1.5m XLR versions just to give you a general idea. Meanwhile the Magnus was $389 which is almost what I would call entry level territory with the price of cables being what it is these days. 

 So far I've been using the Magnus to connect my Eversolo DMP-A8 to a variety of tube and SS headphone amplifiers in the $2-5k range, then feeding the amazing Raal Requisite CA-1a ribbon headphones via the Raal transformer box. It's a pretty simple system and this is the only interconnect involved, making it easier to spot the contributions versus a system with separate transport, DAC, preamp, and amplifier and of course cables running between each of them.

The sound I heard was shockingly open, clean, detailed, and smooth. Huge staging with impressive depth and even height on the right recordings. Very convincing tone on violins, guitars, and vocals both male and female. The Raal headphones are pretty ruthless and reveal all sorts of upstream shortcomings, but I got the feeling I was bouncing up against the limits of the DMP-A8 D/A conversion rather than the cable/amp/headphones. I'll test this out soon when I switch to my bigger system with a better/more expensive DAC, and I'll report my findings when I have some thoughts on that.

Checking my cable collection for things with a vaguely similar price as the Magnus. I rounded up a Harmonic Tech Truth Link, Analysis Plus Copper Micro, Anticables 3.1, and Moon Audio Black Dragon, all of which sold for somewhere in the sub $500 space (I think) at some point in the last decade. It was no contest, the Veritas Magnus outclassed them all by a significant margin. These are all decent cables with something to offer which is why I keep them around in my stash, but compared to the Veritas they all sounded either dull, thin, slow, compressed, or some combination of those traits. I also note that each of them looks and feels like more of a budget product (which I guess they are) where the Veritas Magnus seems like it belongs in an entirely higher class despite the price not reflecting that.

My next goal is to compare it to some others in my arsenal priced around the $1K range. So far, from memory I would say it feels very competitive even in that class, but I want to be more specific about it so no comments for now. The crazy thing is that Veritas told me they have another XLR option (didn't catch the name or other specifics) positioned higher than the Magnus, for what is likely still a pretty reasonable price considering their approach to the market. All of those were spoken for at the time but did ask to be notified when the next batch is ready so we can discuss that. I had been considering the Infigo Audio Sparkle or maybe even Sparkle Signature XLR down the road but I might detour to the Veritas instead, just for the sake of adventure. But that depends on the pricing and specifics they give me, if and when we have that discussion. I'm also curious about their power cables or maybe a USB down the line. Sometimes when cable companies try to do everything, they bite off more than they can chew, or seem to excel with digital rather than analog or vice versa. So it would be interesting to see if Veritas can do the full line of cables to this same high caliber.

In closing I'll say (and it's probably obvious) that I'm extremely impressed with this product so far. It's the most dramatic result I've had from a cable in quite some time, and I appreciate that it didn't involve spending thousands of dollars. The folks at Veritas really seem to be on the right track in terms of quality and value. Which is not to be confused with being very good at marketing a product, which honestly they don't really seem to be, nor do they seem to even care all that much at the moment. They definitely have some improvement to do when it comes to optimizing their operation, but they told me their focus is on organic growth and quality over quantity. That seems like a noble approach so I can't fault them for it. Their website also could really use more specifics but at least they answer emails quickly and are easy to deal with that way.

I'll be back in the next week or so with additional updates. Maybe some downsides will present themselves. But so far it's been a totally positive experience. Next up is my bigger system with more expensive components and cables, we'll see how the Magnus holds up in that context. 

 

v-fi

I prefer the Argentum R and X over the Fidelis interconnects. The Fidelis interconnects are good, the Argentum are silver and in my systems sounded more realistic for my taste. The speaker cables did take longer in order to reach maturity for whatever reason. As I have said before these Veritas Cables are very well built and very sexy in appearance. Now I'm not saying there are not better sounding cables out the in audiophile land some place but for the Veritas Cable pricing they are fantastic. I just received two more pair of the Argentum R interconnects yesterday (USPS must be doing something correct because they arrived one day earlier also) and currently have them on my cable cooker.

@lak 👍👍👍

Bass suddenly comes to life at hr 12. It's crazy. From -70% bass to proper bass. Wonderful extension for mids and highs. Female vocals are wonderful and airy.

The negatives, borderline bright, actually it's pretty bright, lots of treble glare. Female vocals a bit sibilant on a few tracks. Sibilance is something my system never had. Separation is still not good especially on pop songs, treble glare. 

Keep in mind these are all early impressions of burn-in and prone to change. Bass is great. I'm terrible at describing bass. All the usual words apply, fast, punchy, textured, nuanced. 

Bass in terms of quantity is more than all my other cables. It’s not a bassy cable, I think the word is unrestrained.

I've had 1 bassy cables before. Loaned from a friend. Very thin solid core cables. Made my floorstanders at the time sounded like they were subwoofers 🤣😂🤣

Glad you like your cables. Also, they don't sound any different than any other cheap OFC wire. It's all in your head. 

@tkrtrb125 He's right you know. It's all in ny head. Afterall, that's where the sound go.

After 13 hours, much of the problem has subsided. I really like whatI'm hearing but I hope it gets smoother.

Hr 14. It’s sounding amazing. Almost all negatives have disappeared. Tone and timbre are exceptional. The sound has this sweetness and delicacy in instruments and female voices. Veritas described the sound as "exposed". I believe it sounds somewhere between pure and unrestrained. It’s not bright but the highs are fully "exposed" and it is splendid.

Turning up the volume to 90db, the sound remains fully composed. Not a hint of harshness and stridency.

I tried to find songs where it would be unforgiving. Couldn’t find many. Songs like "Kiss My (uh oh) - Anne-Marie" during the chorus are where it can be fatiguing after a bit.

I don’t get the sense that Argentum and Aperta together are track dependant, they feel more like system dependent. Something like a Bright focal is probably not a good match. A warm or neutral system needing more details and clarity, these are probably it.

Good lord these 2 cables are blowing my mind. The first 12 hours I highly doubted myself. Asking what have I done with $1,100.

Now they are extremely detailed and balanced sounding. Mids and highs I can only describe as ethereal and seductive. Expressive, highly detailed, greatly nuanced. These are the best $1,100 I’ve ever spent. Even a better purchase than the Isoacoustic Gaia which I love.

Slapping myself in disbelief.

27 hours on the pair of cables. Some more updates. These cables have excellent dynamic range for the mids and treble, lots of layering and details. Soft notes and vocal can be exquisitively soft and vice versa.

The combination of these 2 cables also result in quite a forgiving sound. Mids and highs do not sound boosted in the slightest. It is also nicely smooth. I listened to many very poorly recorded tracks on soundcloud to reach this conclusion. They are not dark or sit to the warm side, so if these criterias are required for a forgiving sound, these are not it.

@v-fi Thanks!! These cables have had wild changes since hr 1. Wild improvements to be more accurate. I’m curious to hear what’s in store at hr 50.

@lak thanks for the PM earlier today. I couldn't directly reply.

To the guys that break-in their cables by music listening, have you noticed the cables shift from sounding a little dull to perfectly right and then back and forth?

"Good lord these 2 cables are blowing my mind."

yeah, “mind” could be the biggest variable.

@samureyex ..in your cable break-in experiment :-) assuming you didn’t change eardrums + and speakers!

cables are degrading performance with time, resistance increases, electrical length (derivative of phase velocity) increases, leakage increases, shielding isolation decreases. In some cases, listeners like worse performance cables over better ones, some amp manufacturers have damping factor degradation dial, and some ppl like it! 

I've been meaning to get back to this thread but haven't found time until now. Still very impressed with the Veritas Connexa network cable which I run from the wall jack to my Innuos Zenith mark III. It is so much better than the Wireworld Starlight 8 I used to have. I also tried Audioquest Diamond and Cardas Clear, the Connexa is better than both of those by a noticeable margin. The Audioquest Vodka was a tough challenge, I prefer it over the more expensive Diamond. The Veritas Connexa beats Vodka by just a touch, better imaging and feels more open. Close competition in sound but the Connexa is more affordable so that helps.

I also grabbed a Veritas Praesto power cable when they had them in stock. It replaced an ASI Liveline cable that I've owned for quite some time. I liked the Liveline well enough to keep it around for many years so it must have done something right. I want to say it cost around $1100 when I purchased it back then. Connected to my Luxman MQ-88uC amplifier the Veritas Praesto makes my system sound a little bigger and bolder than the Liveline. I hear what feels like better midrange articulation, like notes have slightly more weight to them. I am not great at describing what I hear so I will stop there. 

I'm impressed the Praesto beats the ASI cable that sold for double the price. The rest of my system uses a mixture of old Cardas power cables and very old Stealth M7 power cables from back when Stealth didn't cost a fortune. I've always been happy with them but now I'm probably going to swap them all for Veritas Praesto once those are available again.