Veritas Cables a new brand that I found

I don’t have any first hand experience with Vogue Cables, but see some strong similarities in their designs with what I recall being offered from Cabledyne. They regularly offer significant discounts on their list prices. Does Veritas have a website? I can't seem to find one.

Veritas Cables does have a website however they are working on it and there is not much information there. You would be better off checking US Audiomart and type in Veritas, you will find more information there.

Sorry I mentioned in my rambling post that I am dumb, and now I've gone and proven it to be true. Should I have dropped a link to either their website or their US Audiomart listnings? Yep. Did I do it though? Nope.

Here is the link to their profile where you will see whatever items they currently have posted for sale. It also shows a link to their website which as @lak mentioned is not all that informative at the moment.

Vogue Cables does indeed seem to have similarities to Cabledyne, specifically the identical small labels that show directionality and the model name. But then again they seem to have abandoned the metal sleeving in favor of a different approach so who knows. They are on my list of eventual things to try but the new direction doesn't quite resonate with me as much as the older Cabledyne stuff. 

Thanks for the information.  I have seen their listings on US Audiomart.  Looks interesting, but I hadn't seen any reviews. 

I just took delivery of a Black Cat Silverstar 88 rca interconnect.  Early impressions are very good. 

……I had a couple of birthdays reading this ! Does this qualify as Audiogon’s Tolstoy’s ; “ War and Peace “ ? …..holy cow ! Too much for my brain , just listen to the music .

Oh but you can’t listen to the music unless you’ve spent thousands in the 1 yard wall to equipment Marketing scam. Science, physics, aside you can hear a difference if you burn in the pretty S… that you’ve sold your car to buy. I’ve always loved the have you tried it argument and if so and don’t hear what we sell there is money back or spend more on next week’s improved product. The only thing these yes or no arguments IMO have added up to, it’s bloody boring. 
So yes a novel idea…listen to the music.

Nobody is talking about cables with used-car price tags, nobody is talking about not being able to enjoy music without upgrading cables. Pretty sure we are all here because we love listening to music and want to enjoy that activity more thoroughly. If you don't like cable upgrades or care about them, it's really really easy to just never click on a post like this or an ad for a cable that you find offensive. I myself don't understand fancy watches but I don't hang out on Rolex forums talking trash and saying my Apple Watch is better.

Anyway I emailed Veritas and after some back and forth I ordered one of their Ethernet cables to try out. Should be here soon. The last topic I started here was months ago asking what people are using for Ethernet cables. Got some great suggestions and have been trying different models, so far good results. Also surprising since price seems totally disconnected from performance, even when using 2 cables from the same brand sometimes I like the lower model better. Interested to see where the Veritas fits in compared to better known brands. 

The Veritas Connexa ethernet cable arrived yesterday. Really interesting look to it. I guess this is how Cabledyne products were built, I have not seen any of those personally. I like it.

Sound is promising so far. Can already tell I like it better than my Wireworld Starlight 8 I had been using. Now to compare with Audioquest Vodka and Diamond. I don't love the Diamond even though it is more expensive so theoretically higher end. The Vodka is really great though. I'll update when I have more info. I'm using it with an Innuos Zenith mark III.  

v-fi,  thank you so much for your post. You reeled me in. My Veritas power cord arrived today and I placed it in my power conditioner and and have been llistening for an hour. I know that many of us have described the 'veil being lifted post upgrade when we weren't aware of there  being a veil. I am most impressed with this cable. Having paid a 'reasonable' price is icing on the cake. My endorphins endorphins have kicked in since I have been listening to my music with my new cord. Highly recommended. 

@bander  that is great news! I saw their AC cable listed and it looks real nice. I bookmarked it for possible future upgrades now that I hear your positive impressions.

Still extremely pleased with the Veritas Magnus interconnects. I put them in my bigger system and the same strengths I heard in the headphone rig come through with speakers. I’ll probably end up with a few more sets by the end of the year so I can wire everything with the same cabling.

I’m tempted to try the flagship XLR cable they mentioned but depends on the details and pricing. Supposedly they will get that listed soon.

@v- fi I will certainly purchase one or 2 more power cords for DAC and streamer. I'm all set with my other ics, pcs and speaker cable. Yes, check out the Veritas power cord.

Has anyone purchased their (Veritas Cables) Fidelis RCA interconnects and care to share their thoughts on that product?

Another small cable manufacturer that I have faith in is Empirical Design. Been in business for years, doesn't advertise, all word-of-mouth. 

@lak when I reached out to them about XLR cables they told me the Fidelis interconnects were their biggest seller when it comes to word of mouth sales. Looks like they have sold some on US Audio Mart recently so impressions may start popping up soon. I will probably end up picking up a Fidelis down the road since I love the Magnus XLR and they are based on the same concept. 

@tcutter I always wanted to try an Empirical Overdrive DAC. Those look beautiful. Haven't heard much about their cables though.

Interesting that you guys mention Cabledyne. I still have a full set of their copper ribbon power cables with the metal sleeving. They were very good and I think the only weakness was the Wattgate nickel/brass connectors, but they were such good value for the price.

What happened to them?

@agisthos They were indeed excellent cables for the price. The folks at Cabledyne were very passionate about meting a price target, so they used relatively good but low cost connectors. I agree that aspect held them back from their full potential. 

As far as I know the company folded at least 6 years ago. I don't know why. There is speculation that Vogue Cables has something in common with Cabledyne as they use what looks like identical labels (the white ones with the product name and directional arrows). But that could be a total coincidence, maybe it's a stock template or something. Ed Bowman was the only name I ever encountered as being in charge at Cabledyne, and he was based in Arizona, while Tom Swenson runs Vogue out of Florida. So who knows. 

In any case I see Veritas Cables as being similar in spirit to Cabledyne, but with less compromise on the connectors. I still own and use several sets of the Cabledyne Silver Reference XLR interconnects so I should do a direct comparison with the Veritas Magnus XLR when I get a chance. 

I've been comparing the Veritas Connexa ethernet cable to my others. So I'm still very impressed with the performance. Especially with the price being lower than most of the others I have been trying out. 

System is the Innuos Zenith mark III, Modwright Elyse DAC, Luxman CL-38uC SE preamp, MQ-88uC amplifier, and and Tannoy Turnberry GR speakers.

The Connexa easily outclasses my original cable which is the Wireworld Starlight 8. That sounds dull and boxed in compared to the Veritas. Cardas Clear is better than Wireworld, still very much prefer the Veritas option though. Believe it or not I also really prefer Connexa to Audioquest Diamond which sells for over 5 times as much. The Diamond is actually really good sounding if somewhat overpriced but it doesn't sound as smooth or refined as the Connexa. I like the Audioquest Vodka better than Diamond in my system and I'm still comparign to see if Veritas beats the Vodka. Even if they are a tie the Veritas is maybe half price so that's still impressive. 

September 13^th I purchased a 1.5/M pair of Veritas Audio Fidelis RCA Interconnects. After four days of cable burn-in on my Auuiodharma cable cooker I began to use the interconnects going from preamp to amp. I’m very pleased with the Fidelis interconnects, although the bass originally sounded a bit blotted with a few more hours of use the bass settled in. I’ve never believed in talking to hear myself talk so I simply say that the description written by Veritas Audio regarding their Fidelis RCA interconnects is spot on.

“Veritas Audio Fidelis RCA interconnect in 1.5m length. Fidelis produces incredibly smooth, well-defined sound with superb treble extension, stunning midrange projection, and rock solid, authoritative low end”.

Equipment used: Coincident Frankenstein 300B stereo amp, Red Dragon Stereo Monoblock’s, Luxman CL 38 uC preamp, Project CD Box RS2 Transport with upgraded power supply, LAiV Harmony Dac, Montana EPX speakers and/or JBL 4319 speakers.

Nice to see another fellow Luxman CL-38uC user @lak! That is a beautiful system you got there. Thanks for adding your 2 cents about the Fidelis interconnect. If it satisfies someone with a system of that caliber, that speaks volumes. 

Spent more time with the Veritas Connexa ethernet and I now think it beats the Audioquest Vodka by a reasonable margin. Both really nice cables though. I think the Connexa sounds more open which is really important to me. Out of all the cables I have right now I would rank them Veritas Connexa, then Audioquest Vodka, then Cardas Clear rougly tied with the Audioquest Diamond, then the Wireworld Starlight 8 in last place. 

They have the Magnus XLR cables in stock now LINK Check it out to see what I mean. it looks a lot more like cables I've owned with four figure price tags rather than any in the $400 range.

Seems like they also launched the higher model they had mentioned to me LINK which is called Argentum X. I assume it's a pure silver cable based on the name but I should probably ask them about it. If so I might grab one of those to compare with the Magnus cable. Pricing seems very reasonable for that caliber of cable.

The Magnus interconnect looks very interesting, I’d like to learn more about it.

I'm really happy with my Magnus XLR interconnect. It might be tied with the Eversolo DMP-A8 as the best value piece of audio equipment I bought this year. And that's saying something since I really tried a lot. 

That Argentum X looks really interesting too. The price is not that much higher for what they say is their best cable. Definitely plan on trying that out soon enough and will comment here about how it compares with the Magnus XLR. 

@v-fi In my comment of 10-01-24 I meant to say that I'm very interested in the Argentum X interconnect.

From what I've read it sounds like my Fidelis RCA interconnect is the RCA version of your Magnus XLR interconnect.

@lak That's basically what they told me too. I plan on picking up the Argentum X later this year, but now thinking I might also get some of the Fidelis RCA cables for a tube system I run in another room that doesn't have any balanced connectors. Would you call the Fidelis warm or neutral or ? Don't know if you've had enough time with it to form an opinion yet though.

@v-fi I would call the Fidelis interconnects neutral.

Just emailed them about the Praesto power cable which I think is the one @bander speaks highly of. They responded within about 15 minutes(!) saying a batch is in the works right now. Sounds like those should be ready this week. They also mentioned a more affordable power cable they are working on, I'm tempted to try one of each depending on how the pricing looks. Still very impressed with the Connexa network cable on my Innuos. 

I ordered the Veritas Praesta that I plan on using with my Luxman MQ-88uC amplifier. Was considering buying a couple more but then I figured I would see how I like it first and then maybe order again later. They had them in stock yesterday but it seems like they make one small batch at a time, not sure how long they will last. I will report back once I spend some time with the cable. 

@tubeguy80 please keep us posted.

@bander, have you had an opportunity to try the Veritas power cord on other components and/or have you ordered additional power cords yet as you mentioned earlier? I'm just curious as to whether you heard other improvements when used with different equipment.

@lak, no I haven't. I did order an Iceage power cord. It will arrive fully cryoed. My Veritas has not been fully burned in. I need to get on that.My amp and preamp use Zavino power cords. I'll be comparing the Iceage with the Veritas, using streamer, DAC and conditioner. I can let you know.

I had messaged Veritas last week asking to be put on a list for when their new stuff is ready. Just heard back saying within two weeks all the custom length orders should be good to go. Also the new speaker cables that don't have a name yet, and also the Argentum R which is the RCA version of the Argentum X pure silver cable. I can't decide if I want that or stick with the more affordable Fidelis. Might try both of them for different systems. Fidelis is the same as my Magnus but RCA instead of XLR so I already know how good that will be. 

I have a standing order for the Argentum X Interconnects, and the speaker cable. I'll be able to compare the Fidelis Interconnects to the Argentum X Interconnects since I'll have both..

I received the Veritas power cord yesterday. At this time all I can say is WOW! Very sexy looking and a very solid build. I own many higher priced power cords but this Veritas power cord looks to be in a class of its own, my hats are off to the people at Veritas based upon design. I can't comment on the sound yet because I have it on my Audiodharma cable cooker, for at least several more days.

@lak thank you for that update! Sounds like they aren't just blowing smoke about targeting more expensive cables as competition. I can see how an internet direct brand with low overhead could really maximize value compared to the big guys who have giant marketing fees, many employees, and deal margins to account for. Plus I always like rooting for the little guy on stuff like this. 

@lak, please let us know how Veritas interconnects compared to Lavricables. 
thank you.

@denon1 I currently have the Fidelis RCA interconnects, and in a few weeks I should have the Argentum X Interconnects (which are RCA) and from what I've been told will be: "We use Ultra Pure Ohno Continuous Cast (sometimes called UP OCC) wiring which is claimed to be 7N purity. It is debatable whether or not the technology exists to properly differentiate anything beyond 5N, and certainly the difference between 6N and 7N is extremely difficult to verify. At that point other aspects of the design are more important anyway. There are only three suppliers in the world capable of manufacturing UP OCC wiring, we have tried all of them and settled on the option we felt sounds best in our configuration". 

The Lavricables I have are the Grand Silver (5N) RCA and XLR Interconnects.

Apples to Apples would be the Argentum X vs Lavri Grand.

Thank you, a comparison with Lavricables would be very welcome. I used one of their cables for my Audeze headphones for a while, it was great. Later upgraded to a nicer Norne Audio cable but would still recommend Lavricables for headphones.

I did try one of their interconnects back then and was less impressed. For the price the sound was only decent and I was disappointed to see Neutrik connectors on a cable costing that much. That's a common complaint I have with lots of brands though, anything costing  $200 or more shouldn't be using Neutrik connectors that sell for around $10 per pair. But we see them sometimes even with $800+ cables!

Anyway it looks like Lavricables might use nicer connectors these days. Or at least on certain model they do. So that's good.

By the way @lak the way I understood it the Argentum X is the XLR version and the RCA version is called Argentum R. So I think that's what you are looking for if you need an RCA version. 

@v-fi, Thank you for catching my error regarding the Argentum R as I should have referred to it. I get mixed up at times with new items, especially when its not on their website yet.

@lak Definitely understand, it is confusing. I've already suggested/complained to Veritas via email that they need to get their website figured out. Then again if they are focused on building our orders I'm not sure I want them diverting attention to web development right now. Just the usual small company startup challenges I guess. 

Does anybody know quality of the silver they use in Argentum X interconnects?

From a few posts up:

"We use Ultra Pure Ohno Continuous Cast (sometimes called UP OCC) wiring which is claimed to be 7N purity. It is debatable whether or not the technology exists to properly differentiate anything beyond 5N, and certainly the difference between 6N and 7N is extremely difficult to verify. At that point other aspects of the design are more important anyway. There are only three suppliers in the world capable of manufacturing UP OCC wiring, we have tried all of them and settled on the option we felt sounds best in our configuration". 

+1 @tubeguy80 

I just placed an order for a set of Argentum R unbalanced interconnects, which are finally available. I was informed that they’ll ship out tomorrow. At $450, they look fantastic and feel like a great deal, but we’ll see how they perform. I’ve been really pleased with the Magnus XLR I got last month, so I’m hoping the Argentum R lives up to the hype as well.

@v-fi if you liked your Magnus XLR wait until you hear the Argentum R interconnects, I believe you are going to be very happy. I say this because I just took my Argentum X off the cable burner and into one of my systems (Luxman 590AX MKII, Audio Research CD7, Klipsch Forte III). This interconnect is as good or better than anything I have heard.

@denon1 in my opinion the Argentum (their silver interconnect) is an improvement over the Lavricables Grand, the Ocellia, and several other high level silver cables who's names alludes me at the present time.

@lak, thank you for the update. This is reassuring, especially coming from you.

Can you please give more details.

I just placed the order on Argentum. They also developed speaker cables and first batch is sold out. I will wait to hear about them also.
For Argentum they are using a UP OCC silver with at least 5n purity. This is by itself sounds very promising.

Ok Please explain to me if an Ohno Continuous Cast process makes silver conductor even better. I have been using OCC copper for years with my DIY cables and do think it does out perform OFC.

The folks at Veritas are local to me, so very interested in what they are doing.

@pindac

@williewonka

Thoughts?

@denon1 I have the Argentum R interconnects and speaker cables scheduled for delivery from USPS tomorrow (hopefully). Once off of my cable cooker I'll be able to put the Argentum R interconnects (RCA's) and speaker cables into the system that I really want to hear them in, I can't do that now because the system doesn't allow for XLR. At that time I can better describe what I'm hearing.

Listening Impressions of the Argentum X 1.5/M Interconnects (Listening Notes from today).

Deep low bass, timbre and decay sound very realistic, natural and accurate. Good sound stage and separation of instruments.

Notes sound crisp and very natural, I sense realism in the quality of  the music.

The Veritas Cable website states the "Argentum X is incredibly transparent and resolving, with a tonal solidity that completely avoids the sort of bright, sterile, analytical presentation so often found on other detail-oriented cables”. 

I totally agree with that statement.

 

The website also states: "The Fidelis produces incredibly smooth, well defined sound with superb treble extension, stunning midrange projection, and rock solid, authoritative low end".

 The Argentum X does this to an even greater sophisticated magnitude and I would think it would be suitable for any high-end system.

@lak , thank you for the update. Can you please share details on speaker cables: construction, plugs, stiffness and of course the sound.

@denon1 I will after I receive them (obviously) and after some cable burn in time on my Audiodharma Cable Cooker :-)