Lamm ML1 question


Well, I finally bit the bullet and bought a used pair of Lamm ML-1s to replace my Jadis amps in my main system. While I like what I'm hearing, has anyone tried any tube-rolling with the two small-signal tubes in the amps? Any suggestions?
rcprince
Shushurin "hand picks" from what is readily available. Rcprince...if you are looking at vintage NOS tubes, here is what worked for me: Telefunkens in the 12AX7 location and RCA black plates in the 12BH7 location. I was running a LL2 pre and Mini Utopia speakers at the time. Andy at Vintage Tube Services was excellent at matching up some nice ones for me. Good luck...
Deano: Thanks. I have a ton of Andy's Telefunken 12AX7s left over from the stock I was saving for my old JP80 which I can try; I'll talk with him about 12BH7s if I like the sound better with the Teles.
Deano: Most NOS tubes are discards. They were not up to the standards of the day. What do you think, someone stuck tons of these tubes in a vault and forecasted that one day these tubes would be worth a fortune?

Most manufacturers have no idea how to select tubes. There are a few that I know of that really know their sh*t. Vladmir Lamm, Ken Stevens, Michele at Tenor Audio, Victor Komhenko, EveAnna Manley are just a few.

My experience with the Telefunken 12AX7 is the opposite result. I found them microphonic and tubby. I had and probably still have a large supply. There are current production tubes that I prefer by a wide margin.
Thanks Rick--the Lamms are actually a partial payback from my wife for the new kitchen, and a recycling of money from the sale of my JP80. They're excellent amps, with most of the strengths of the Jadis but not the drawbacks, and they work very well in combination with the JP200 preamp, just as the Lamm LP2 does.

I've viewed Jonathan's and Deano's posts with some interest. Jonathan, you may be right about discards, as there are a lot of bad NOS tubes out there, but my experience with Andy Bouwman's tubes is that they are anything but discards. I would say that in my Jadis equipment the NOS tubes are FAR better, both sonically and from a longevity standpoint, than their modern equivalents, but keep in mind that my Jadis equipment was designed at a time when Telefunken, Amperex and Mullard were manufacturing the tubes that we now call NOS--it stands to reason, particularly as the Jadis equipment seems to have been "voiced" in its design, that those tubes would sound right in them. Lamm is designing around the tubes currently available, and picking the best of those they can find (I'm told that Lamm has to throw out about half of the tubes they get), so it is quite likely that those tubes should work best in their equipment. Interestingly, though, Lamm apparently does not "voice" its designs, which is why I wondered about trying NOS tubes in them. Guess it won't hurt to try!