What speakers can make a convert of Maggie lovers?


After living with Magneplanars for many years (1.6qr's at present,) I'm wondering what other speakers Magneplanar owners have fallen for. I'm sure this topic must have covered before, but this site's search engine leaves a lot to be desired. There are many things that I like about Maggies, the expansive soundstage, well integrated drivers, and value for the money among their many virtues. Ideally, I'd like speakers that would have better low level detail and palpability, be less picky about amplification, and have better percusive/ dynamic qualities. The need for augmentation with a subwoofer would ok. My listening room is about 15x20' with a 12' ceiling height. I don't favor any one type of music, my tastes are musically omnivorous. Price of contenders would have to be no more than $5-6,000 new. Of course, something less expensive like the Gallos would be fine too, it's good to have money left over to buy more music. I know everyone says "go listen at your dealers." I've done that, but I find dealer's rooms sound so cruddy compared to my acoustically treated room that I can't make really meaningful comparisons.
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Do I miss my Maggies. Yes at times .I had 1.4s and 1.6's for about 16 years.I somtimes miss the openness and full life picture they produce.
But the weaknesses altough few were enough for me to go another way.For my ears I needed an more accurately produced soundstage.ie double bass image does not all of sudden become bigger than the rest of the group because of its amplitude,same for trumpets or voices.
Now I spent 6 times the price to get the Wilson Benesch ACTII's but these babies are so damm convincing that the performers are real.Scary .
What about intimacy. How can you get better at intimacy than the Maggies?
Well when I gave the Wilson's a listen there was no question.
Now that is not to say there is likely many many speakers that provide fanatastic sound.Just how can to audition all of them.So many out there I have not heard and can imagine they do sound good.
I just happened to hear and fall in love with the Wilson's.
Would I go back, not very likely.
Anyway you slice it 'It's all about the music and what flows in your mind'
Cheers.
I've heard Vonschweikert VR4-SR, B$W 802D, Wilson Watt Puppy 7, VMPS RM 40 and a few others. Nothing can send a shiver down my spine and bring tears of emotion to me like Magnepan 20.1's. Lots of speakers I've never heard. I've heard good things about the Wilson Benesch but haven't heard them. Their may be something more to an individuals taste out there and who knows there may be something out there I would like more, but for the life of me I simply can't imagine anthing more realistic sounding than Maggie 20.1's. When I see a live show. It's BIG. It's not pinpoint defined. It's just BIG. The imaging the 20.1's have is focused enough to believe. To be overly impressed with any one particular thing is certainly a personal choice but is it real? When I close my eyes or turn off the lights at night the image of a real band or singer is life like and simply offers an emotional meltdown of satisfaction that is undescribable unless you've witnessed it. I know they cost more and it is not the purpose of your thread, but moving up to the 20.1 level and staying with the Maggies may be a long term consideration for you.
i heard the maggie 1.6, Cabasse, Spendor 8, with a ARC amp + pre and a super crummy Cal Labs cdp, last week.
I suggest you try a Tyler.
The timing of this threads renewel is interesting, as I've finally gotten off the fence and jumped into the dynamic speaker side of the audio pasture. As the only thing I heard in dealer auditions that really moved me more than my Maggies cost $13k (Nola Reference Vipers,) I was despairing of finding affordable satisfaction. I tried to audition higher level Maggies, but the local Maggie "dealer" is a joke. They don't stock the Maggie 3.6 and are only interested in selling Wilsons and B&W's in a home theatre context, so I couldn't audition those. I took a look at consumer direct marketed speakers like Tyler, Salk, ACI, etc. I was looking at the same models Bartokfan has been ruminating over in his threads. The only thing that chilled me out on his product was the 10% restock charge if they didn't suit me. That, plus truck shipping both ways would add up to a $1000 audition. In spite of that, I almost ordered from Ty. In the meantime, I started looking at the just discontinued ACI Talisman Se's ($5k.) They are 4 way towers, look a bit like coincidents but have integrated self powered subs ( two low pass 2nd order crossvers, phase & level controls.)
After speaking with Mike Dzurko about what I was looking for, I decided to take a chance even though practically no info is available about them. All I had to risk was one way shipping if they proved unsuitable. In many, if not all respects, ACI's product design goals sound very similat to Tylers. They've been installed in my listening room a week now and have about 40 hours play time. There's no point in prematurely yapping about their sound until they're broken in, but my initial impressions are VERY positive. They maintain the big and expansive Maggie soundstage but add the positves of more realistic dynamics, better frequency extension at both ends of the spectrum, more delicate dynamic shadings, higher resolution of ambient clues, and better "slam" when called for. After I've lived with them a month or so, I'll put the Maggies back into my system because I want to compare them again. Eventually I'll post a more indepth review here or over at Audioasylum.