Add a subwoofer to Von Schweikert 4Srs?

More often than not the best placement for your mains is not great for bass. In my room full range speakers just don't deliver the bass I crave in my listening position. I have an older pair of VS VR4 MKII and now a pair of Aerial 9's and neither one can deliver satisfying bass in the optimal location for imaging and soundstage. Now if I were to move them for the best bass response the bass improves greatly but everything else suffers. I know that both of these speakers can deliver great bass in the right room, unfortunately I don't have that room and neither do you.

The best sub I have ever owned is the JL Audio Fathom F113. If you get a pair of these or even a pair of the F112 you will be set, probably forever. The first sub I have ever owned that can accurately convey the most subtle bass notes and I could actually describe as articulate. I have had the velodynes, Revel's, M&K, SVS, Von Schweikert and the list goes on in subwoofers but the JL Audio sub just kills for music.

Good luck.

Mike

it could be your room or speaker location. check out the speaker location calculations from cardas and others. i have used rel subwoofers with very good results with totem speakers.

You're welcome to try my Rel Storm, but I find it hard to believe that you Sr's fall short of bass.

Jeff

I'll offer another comment reinforcing the room/placement influence. I have a pair of VR4 GenIII's (I bought them from Driver) in a dedicated multi-media room. Before I bought them I was doing research, and spoke on the phone with Albert Von Schweikert about them vs the VR4 JR. Although he raved about the merits of the VR4 GenIII, his one caution to me is they may be to boomy in my room (14x20x8'). My experience has been the opposite - the bass is weak vs what I expected, and what it is in my other larger(and irregular shaped) room.

I also have Totem Mani-2s that I run with a Rel Storm III, which I run normally in the larger room, but have swapped with the VR4's. It's easier to place the Storm to counter the room influence what it is the VR4's, but it still take some doing to place the Storm for optimum bass. There's something about my room acoustics that I need to address one of these days (just been too lazy).

Thank you all for the advice. Now that it's the weekend I can try a few of your suggestions before actually trying a sub. First off, on the issue of speaker placement and room acoustics, I've been less than thorough at looking at that. We are in the midst of a minor remodeling project (old house...new ceilings and floor sanding and refinishing) and in doing so the re-arrangement has temoparily changed a few things:-there is half the furniture in the room there usually is -rugs I had on the walls behind the speakers are on the floor, under the speakers (at my wife's request "don't scratch the floors!") - I slid the speakers further out into the room (why not...no furniture to bump into). Basically, most everything has changed acoustically...though the mids and highs are currently glorious in my opinion. I just removed a good chunk of the Dacron from the speaker ports and slid the speakers back about 12 inches towards the rear wall...difference heard already. From a system perspective, concurrent with the housework I sent sent my Spectron amp in for an upgrade (goodbye 600 WPC) and pulled in my NuForce 9SEs (180WPC)...duhhhh...gee, that could make a difference. So...no final verdict forthcoming in the near future, but I hope to report back later. Say, Inhisservice, about the placement of the Dacron, are you saying not to leave it in the port...the tube part...but push it to the very back of the cabinet or take it out entirely?