Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


michaelgreenaudio
Actually, it appears to me, an objective observer of the scene, that Michael assessed his audience correctly, as one talking the talk but not walking the walk. This is not Michael’s first rodeo. 🤠 That’s what makes this whole thread so amusing. And talk they do. Little chatterboxes. He baited them and they took the bait.
Gk
You are ANYTHING but an "objective observer"
And if you are saying that the op knew exactly how this would all pan out then that is not very encouraging.
Lets just leave it at that....

uberwaltz,

I’d say geoffkait is *very* familiar with MG’s modus operandi. Have you ever seen their exchanges on the Stereophile forum? I only just stumbled upon them and...lemme tell ya...watching these evangelical purveyors of flaky audio products troll each other for pages on end is one of the internet’s strangest and most ironic sights. ;-)
(Though it gets old very fast...)


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MG the thing is yes this thread that you started has turned out to be a big nothing burger. Your main goal appears to be as prof indicated launch vague criticisms and convince people your place is much better and get them to hang out and maybe spend some money there instead.

It is what it is. That’s cool. Got it!