A truly, measurably, objectively neutral speakers doesn’t come alive until the volume is turned up, but will lack the perception of detail, because those details come from exaggerated and often rough treble responses.Two very detailed speakers I've heard (Sound Lab ESLs and Classic Audio Loudspeakers model T-3.3 with field coil drivers) don't seem to need to be turned up to come alive, and are some of the most neutral speakers I've heard. Two other speakers that also do this: Audiokinesis and High Emotion Audio (not sure if the latter is still in business).
So I think your conclusion is mistaken- you can totally have detail and neutrality at the same time. In fact I see that when you make an improvement, the system should improve in these two areas in particular and at the same time!
I'm not a fan of the speakers you mentioned for the same reasons you mentioned them.