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After what seems like a hundred hours or more of reading.  I think I am at the end of my search for subs.  If anyone has listened to any of these subs, I would greatly appreciate your review on them.  After all this research I have narrowed it down to 3 subs, I dont really care about any other subs, probably due to this 2 months of research. Exhaustion has set in and a choice needs to be made.  I have only had the chance to listen to a few, best buy being my source for listening. I did listen to Martin,  rel,  svs sb 2000 and sb 4000. Rel and Martin's under 1k, did not give me toe tapping. Both svs's did. (I will be selling both my vanderstien 2wq, i havent listened to them in yrs and just want new toys)  Other than BB, I have to travel quite far for hi end.  I listen to 60/40 music/HT.  My room is 8'x14'x24'.  Front spkrs are totem winds. I will be purchasing one in February and a second with 6 months.  In order these are my choices.
1.  Svs sb 3000. 
2.  Rymthik f12se.  
3.  Paradigm defiance x12

I've read alot on svs and rymthik, can't find much on x12.  Worried about rymthik only having 370 amp, yes I know it's servo. But svs is 800/2500. Quite a difference.  I thought about 15 inch sub, but the weight is crazy.  Ported is also heavy and possibly not up to my standards for tight music.  So I guess my question is,  who has listened to these 3 subs and what is your experience and evaluation of these subs. Details are appreciated.  Thanks, Pete
pcc67
mzkmxcv
777 posts
 
@danimaz 
 
when the numbers are measurements showing that it’s just as musical (distortion, group delay, transient response, etc.), then yes it does matter. 
 
I don’t see how you can make any claims on their service. The fact is that they have a much better warrenty program than JL Audio, showing how much more faith they have in their products. I’ve already said SVS isn’t as good for the money, but their warrenty is the best I know of, plus they do upgrade programs as well as free upgrades if they did a recent revision on the model you bought. JL Audio covering the amp only for 1 year is a joke, even REL and MartinLogan are 3yr and even B&W is 2yr.
pcc67 OP
226 posts
 
I must agree, lack of a great warranty does not give me much faith in a product. Especially a very expensive product. 
pcc67 OP
226 posts
 
I will check out the paradigm defiance x12,  but I just read a review in one of the audiophile mags. They said it was nice, but had port noise at low freq. Thought they did say the prestige  1000sw sound great. But it's 3k. Out of my range. I really don't want to be above 1200 per sub.
danimaz
60 posts
 
@mzkmxcv:
So your saying a dodge hell cat would beat a 911 turbo s because it has bigger numbers? Fit and finish, built quality, handling would all be better in a doge than in a porsche because dodge has bigger numbers? 
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m-db
969 posts
 
The room correction capability within your receiver/pre pro can be the most important factor directing your purchase. Does it have actual equalization? In my experience you want to run the mains without EQ but you want to EQ the subs.

Unless your tied to using a single subwoofer the subwoofers output connectivity would be the next important consideration. You can budget more for a full feature sub to be used as a master controller and use more economical subs around the room.

Wireless is an attractive option regarding room locations for multi sub placement.

Just so you know Vandersteen offers some of the best subwoofer performance and equalization available today. Before you sell your 2WQ it could be used as a slave unit. You might want to drop them an email before you pull the trigger.

Make sure you read completely the manuals of any prospective subwoofer. Think of your sub/s as a separate system that will service you through future audio changes or additions.
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