Vinyl***What If***

I do not know one single solitary person who was into analog who went back. They don't even play their old records. The know, after a lifetime of records and record players, that the fuss is about "expensive" high end analog.

I'm not trying to influence people, you are. I only want them to know the truth; there is no big deal on a record without "high end analog". I want them to know "before" they spend their money, not after.

I hope there is a record player somewhere close buy they can hear and determine for themselves.

Correct Orpheus
You do not know me.....

Must have taken at least 15 years away from vinyl and yet here I am......


My daughter is VERY happy with the vinyl rig I put together for her.

Check it out under my systems page.

I do not know one single solitary person who was into analog who went back.

Well now you do.   I grew up with records (I'm 55) and have got back in to vinyl big time.  Loving it.

If you paid much attention to the vinyl scene, you'd see plenty of people who grew up with vinyl have either dusted off their turntable or have bought a new one and are having a blast.  I read articles about it all the time, and know quite a few people who are back in to vinyl - many of my friends.

You should get out more ;-)

A tale of two rigs......

My main vinyl rig is right about at $6500 retail.

My second vinyl rig is about $340.

And tbh the sq on the second rig is exceedingly good.

Technics sl10 linear tracker with Adzen p mount cartridge and Project phonobox.

Anybody can replicate this for similar money from eBay anytime.

Now does my main rig sound better? Sure it does and so it bloody well should!

But if I was hearing my second rig with nothing else to compare it to I would still be very happy as it is pretty close to cd replay in that system in detail and soundstage and head and shoulders proud in warmth and musicality.

Plenty of great cheaper options available for new vinyl enthusiasts, sure it is a slippery slope and it is also easy to spend money and be dissatisfied too.

Thinking more deeply about this whole philosophy we should definitely be encouraging new vinyl addicts at every opportunity.

Not telling them you need 3K minimum to play in our sandpit.

You're not talking to a "Newbee"; I've been around, I was at the Dead Sea when it died, and I was at the Red Sea when they dyed it red, I can go all the way back to the Gramaphone when vinyl really sucked.

When CD came out, the multitudes had Gerrard, Dual, and BIC tables that cost about $200. or less. Cartridges were "Shure" and others that cost $150. tops; not exactly high end, and that's why CD's sounded high end; no record noise or "snap, crackle and pop".

The multitudes never went back to records; especially after they found out what all the fuss was about (very expensive high-end) I have never seen or heard people so adept at "conflating" things; such as one of those old Dual turntables sound better than CD. That's a blatant lie, and guys who had them would laugh in your face. This new propaganda is just for the "Newbees" who don't know.

"You guys got stock in turntables, or something"?

Out of the multitudes who had those old turntables, they have upgraded everything except the vinyl end; the vast majority are out of vinyl forever, and the numbers reflect that. If the multitudes were into records, record stores would be overflowing, and there would be one on every other corner (slight exaggeration), but the fact that they were busier than a bee hive every Saturday is not an exaggeration.

Any new people who are seduced into vinyl without sufficient funds, will discover for themselves that their digital is better than cheap analog, and it takes almost 3K to even equal decent digital.

What's the point if you're not going to get better than CD? Especially with all the problems that go with vinyl. The multitudes who lived with those problems have said "good riddance", and the numbers reflect that.

After having said what I just said, I thoroughly enjoy the depth and holography of analog, but it ain't cheap, and a degree from analog university helps a lot as well. Do you bother to tell the "Newbees they need to go to analog U"; of course not.