orpheus10
That's quite a short-sighted viewpoint. It confuses your own likes and criteria with those of others. People can find analog - in this case vinyl/turntables - "better" than their digital music for a whole variety of reasons.
As you acknowledge, the discussion in this thread clearly concerns getting in to vinyl/turntables.
The fact that YOU think you can only get "analog" satisfaction by spending lots of money on "High End" stuff doesn't entail this is the case for others.
Tons of people, young and old, have been getting in to vinyl. They aren't spending tons of money on gear and they have been thrilled.
And many like the sound of vinyl, even from cheaper players, better than their digital music. It doesn't have to be better in some technically accurate sense for people to prefer their records. And of course it's not only sound, but the wider experience of physical records, artwork, turntables, hunting for records, the way using records on any equipment seems to naturally focus many people on listening rather than as background music. There are many reasons why people are enjoying vinyl without spending lots of money and it's far from everyone who gets on to an expensive upgrade path. (And if someone DOES go down that path, it's because they want to, so there's nothing wrong there either).
I'm sorry, but what a silly, misguided attitude. People want to buy a record player and play records, and you are going to be mister "Not On My Watch!!!' ??
I'm glad it's not your watch; otherwise plenty of people would have been pushed away from getting in to something it turns out they truly enjoy.
"Analog" is better IF, and only IF, you can afford to buy "High-End-Analog".
That's quite a short-sighted viewpoint. It confuses your own likes and criteria with those of others. People can find analog - in this case vinyl/turntables - "better" than their digital music for a whole variety of reasons.
As you acknowledge, the discussion in this thread clearly concerns getting in to vinyl/turntables.
The fact that YOU think you can only get "analog" satisfaction by spending lots of money on "High End" stuff doesn't entail this is the case for others.
Tons of people, young and old, have been getting in to vinyl. They aren't spending tons of money on gear and they have been thrilled.
And many like the sound of vinyl, even from cheaper players, better than their digital music. It doesn't have to be better in some technically accurate sense for people to prefer their records. And of course it's not only sound, but the wider experience of physical records, artwork, turntables, hunting for records, the way using records on any equipment seems to naturally focus many people on listening rather than as background music. There are many reasons why people are enjoying vinyl without spending lots of money and it's far from everyone who gets on to an expensive upgrade path. (And if someone DOES go down that path, it's because they want to, so there's nothing wrong there either).
It seems to me that they are trying to lure those with a low budget into this very expensive game, and I say "Not on my watch" .
I'm sorry, but what a silly, misguided attitude. People want to buy a record player and play records, and you are going to be mister "Not On My Watch!!!' ??
I'm glad it's not your watch; otherwise plenty of people would have been pushed away from getting in to something it turns out they truly enjoy.