Thiel Owners

Any 3.7 owner want to bring your speakers to my room?

Interestingly enough, that would be my next speakers but financially it's not possible for the moment.  Hopefully some day.  Sometimes things are just beyond one's wishes.  

tomthiel

Great stuff on the 02s, thank you!

I've still been listening to the 02s for something like 3 weeks now.  I just can't tear myself away from how great they sound, in particular playing from my vinyl rig.

I have no idea about the condition of stuff hiding within my particular set up of 02s.  They were bought new in either '81 or '82.

Not being a technical dude, I'd be terrified to open them and screw something up.


But any info you can pass along that would help me in case anything fails on these would be great.  Are you planning a "better parts" upgrade for the 02s?

Anyway, since this is Thiel thread, I guess I am allowed to be a bit sentimental :-).  I found this little excerpt regard to specially to the CS2.7 in which the reviewer says:
https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/speaker/floor-standing/thiel-cs2-7-floorstanding-speaker/

In purchasing a Thiel speaker, my sense is that you’re getting the very best effort from everyone involved, from the concept, design and engineering to fabrication, it feels like you’re buying the love and passion that any craftsman puts into a piece. When I look at the CS2.7, I could imagine staring at it in 20 years and thinking I made a wise investment. It could very well be as timeless as any speaker and it will be talked about fondly as long as we listen to music from a box pushing air.

I happen to own an old E46 M3 car which I have the same feeling.  There are just to many "parts bin" products out there in either speakers or any other products.  Thiel and a few that really stand out.

By the way, has anyone able to hear the difference between the 2.4 vs. 27?  It would be interesting to find out.

^IMHO, the 2 series might be Thiel's value leader line because they used parts from recently developed higher end lines towards a trickle down effect.

Andy - regarding diffraction - please pardon me not knowing its controversy, I've been out of the loop too long. It is not controversial nor trivial, it is a fundamental element of design; it is measurable and directly hearable if the system is transparent. For yourself, or with a friend, listen to yourself speaking or singing. Then put your flat hands beside your mouth and repeat. The difference you hear is diffraction.
However, there are cases where diffraction is masked in playback. Since diffraction is a phase-time anomaly, those systems with compromised phase-time performance might mask its presence or conflate diffraction with the other phase-time puzzles requiring mental reconfiguration. 

Regarding baffleless drivers vs rounded baffles. We experimented with both early-on. Both have their merits. However, the baffleless concept treats the individual drivers as separate units with their own diameter to wavelength behaviors. The rounded (Thiel) baffle treats the unified radiating soundfield as a whole. On balance, I believe (as I would . . . duh) that the unified, rounded single baffle does more things right; its major flaw being increased cost.

Looking to natural acoustics, the mouth or musical instrument forms its soundfield across its entire frequency band, not as separate sources for bass, midrange or treble.

On to the greater concept of controversy: most controversies have little to nothing to do with the subject under scrutiny. They have more to do with the biases or knowledge (including deficits) of those arguing. So much would become so much clearer by using the correct pronouns. When someone says "you can't hear it", I believe they are actually saying "I can't hear it". Fair enough, except that they are projecting their lack of hearing on "you", which includes you and me and everyone else who is hearing it. In my experience, that projector has rarely if ever actually tried to hear the difference being denied, or at least not objectively analyzed and explored the territory. Imagine if you or I were so bold as to tell a conductor or band leader or competent recording engineer that "you can't hear it". If he didn't slap you, he would either dismiss you or ignore you. We earn our keep by hearing it and understanding it and making it better. End of rant.