TT, 12" Tonearm. Who tried and ended up preferring 12" arm?


TT, 12" Tonearm. Who tried and ended up preferring 12" arm?

I don't mean to start a good, better, best, 'here we go again' tech talk about 9/12, that has been covered, and I have been researching.

I am just wondering: Who tried and ended up preferring a 12" arm?

Aside from all other upgrades you probably did at the same time, which could have improved a 9" arm, what about the 12" arm made you stick with it?

I suppose, 'I tried 12" and went back to 9"' would be good to know also

thanks, Elliott

elliottbnewcombjr
Elliot, I have a 9" arm and a 14" arm. It all depends on the cartridge. I put stiff cartridges like the Koetsu and the Air Tight in the long arm. I put softer cartridges like the Lyra, Windfeld Ti and Clearaudio in the 9" arm.
I can't say one sounds better than the other. They sound different probably mostly due to the cartridges. The differences are surprisingly subtle. I can say that I have never heard a Koetsu do bass or sound punchier than it does in the Kuzma 4 point 14. I have a Rosewood Signature Platinum because it weights a lot less than one of the stone models which would push the effective mass over the edge. The Koetsu RSP and 14" Kuzma are a match made in heaven. The Windfeld Ti in the 4 point 9" will track anything you throw at it. It beats all the others in tracking tests. If I were to use just one arm I would get an SME V 12. It is a very light 12" arm and with the addition of head shell weights would be able to accommodate any modern cartridge. I like the 4 point 9 a lot but the reason I have it is that the SOTA will only take 9 to 10" arms. The Tri Planar arms are also excellent.   
keeping things more affordable, I am looking at

George Merril's Gem Dandy PolyTable Super 12 with a Jelco 12" arm,  3 Jelco arm choices, 750L, 850L, 950L.  new: $3,000 to $3,700. plus tax and shipping.

http://www.hifigem.com/PolyTableSUPER12.html

No dust cover, I would have to make something (which I could/would do).
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Also considering an old JVC JL-B44 which came with a factory 12" arm, integral dust cover (important for me). As-Is or Refurb. $600 to $1,000.

not many around,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys6eWvwfLaQ

two eBay, from Japan

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264512255947?ViewItem=&item=264512255947

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-JL-B44-Direct-Drive-Turntable/153409634015?hash=item23b7ed3edf:g:XzsAAOSwh0NchHAp




@elliotbnewcombjr I run 12" and 9" Jelco 850 on the same table. (I’ve also got two 12" 750s.) The 12" is better. It’s more open and dimensional. If you are going for the GEM, get the 850L 12". It is so much better than the 550/750. I’ve not heard the 950.

P.S. Stay with the Jelco magnesium headshell. You won't need anti-skating on the 12" although YMMV. You'll need phono cables. The Jelco 501 is perfectly good. Don't be tempted to replace it.