Speakers or room

I have the LS50 not the LS50W so my take may not be correct. My LS50’s are in my small treated (with GIK panels) room, 12x11x9 and it sounds great, but without good bass. It is easy to see why the former editor of Stereophile uses them as his reference. However, when I have heard these same speakers in a bigger room they suffered in sound. Maybe your DSP capable LS50W are facing physical limits to what they can do in your big room.

You can easily go up in speaker monitor size and fill that room of yours. Some suggestions for this, that are similar to the LS50 sound but even better are the following:

TAD ME1 ($15K)
KEF Reference 1 ($5K used and really good)
Vivid Kaya S12 (not released yet, no price given, but I would want to hear this one)

Vivid Kaya 45 (floor stander but small)
Paradigm Persona 3F (floor stander)
Magico A3 (floor stander)

I love my LS50’s and the above mentioned speakers are what I demoed and considered to replace them in my small room (of course have not heard the Vivid Kaya S12)

https://www.soundstageglobal.com/index.php/shows-events/tokyo-international-audio-show-2019-tokyo-japan/902-tias-2019-laurence-dickie-outside-and-mostly-inside-the-new-vivid-audio-kaya-s12

I decided on the Yamaha NS 5000 as my final choice. They don’t sound like the LS50 but I wanted something out of left field for my office. They need a bigger room like yours for easy placement, but I know how to make it work in my small room with a lot more work.

There are plenty of integrated amps, like the new Hegel 390 ($6k), that require only 1 box to get you streaming digital.

There are also bigger active DSP speakers like the Kii and the Dutch and Dutch that are maybe an easier turn key solution for you. These guys are similar to the LS50W but should have tons more bass.

Room. Fixed the acoustics and you’ll get so much more from your system. Have it tested to know where the nodes are and what specific frequencies need to be tamed. Absorb or diffuse? Big difference. Get that right. I hate the way most acoustic treatments look. Went to Artnovion. Best looking highly specific treatment. Lower cost “tunable” alternative is ASC traps. Sometimes available used. Good place to start

To add to my previous post, the LS50W’s have waaay more bass than the passive LS50’s.  I actually preferred the bass response of the LS50W over the passive LS50’s and Rel T9i sub.  Neither speaker has much, if any, punch.  They are smooth, detailed, image like crazy and allow you to peel back layers of music that you may not of heard before, but they will not thump you in your chest.  If you’re looking for a speaker that delivers impact and large scale dynamics, you may want to look at other speakers.
My advice would be to buy a good sub, preferably 2, if not 4 (for a swarm set-up), cross the LS50W’s over around 80hz, and set up the dsp settings to your preference.  Buy room treatments and spend some time setting up and dialing in the LS50W’s.

Thank you all for your thoughts . I pulled them out from the back wall,  which is a window, and that has helped. Next step is a rug for the area when , I’m listening. . I’ll keep you posted.  Brian

Yes,a large  area rug will help.
 Put some throw pillows behind the speakers.