Speakers or room

To add to my previous post, the LS50W’s have waaay more bass than the passive LS50’s.  I actually preferred the bass response of the LS50W over the passive LS50’s and Rel T9i sub.  Neither speaker has much, if any, punch.  They are smooth, detailed, image like crazy and allow you to peel back layers of music that you may not of heard before, but they will not thump you in your chest.  If you’re looking for a speaker that delivers impact and large scale dynamics, you may want to look at other speakers.
My advice would be to buy a good sub, preferably 2, if not 4 (for a swarm set-up), cross the LS50W’s over around 80hz, and set up the dsp settings to your preference.  Buy room treatments and spend some time setting up and dialing in the LS50W’s.

Thank you all for your thoughts . I pulled them out from the back wall,  which is a window, and that has helped. Next step is a rug for the area when , I’m listening. . I’ll keep you posted.  Brian

Yes,a large  area rug will help.
 Put some throw pillows behind the speakers.

Usually little speakers in a large echo chamber sound tinny so there maybe something else wrong. I agree with the recommendation for a smaller room (or larger speakers and a rug.)

Still need to try my omega xrs3 and vr1s. That will tell me if it’s the room or speakers. It maybe as mijostyn suggests the speakers are too small for the open space. The bass is fine it’s the miss and treble that sound lost. I’m listening to 7 rings by Adriana grande and it sound okay as background music but nothing I enjoy. I know it’s the room with these speakers. Too much open space. Listening area is small but lots of open space behind and to the side .