Higher End DACs


I am looking for a DAC (potentially streamer&DAC) to be paired in a mcintosh system (c1100/611). Its my first foray into digital streaming and I have no need for a CD player.

I see a lot of love for Esoteric, however, most seems to be around their transports? Are they not as renowned for pure digital streaming and/or standalone DACs? I see DCS (for instance) often referenced for standalone DACs - how does Esoteric compare?
ufguy73
tomic601,

I own the ND 555 streamer/DAC with the 555 PS DR power supply and a Uniti Core ripper/hd server.  I like how it sounds.  I use to own their 555 CD player, which I thought sounded better than their servers, but, their current top-of-the-line server is quite good.  I have almost 5,000 CDs ripped to the server.  I don't know how it compares with other high end servers and dacs, but, the dealer who sold it to me said he was surprised himself by how it performed compared to the other stuff he carries, and he has some auite good gear in the shop, like the ultra expensive MBS and the Berkeley stuff. 
If you can afford $15-20 k  you for sure without any doubt deserve to 
hear either the Top Vacuum tube Lampizator  Pacific dac,
or the closeGolden gate dac 
for true realism you would have to spend well over $40k with the upper DCS dacs,vacuum tube dacs that are also tube rectified 
bring a much more natural larger soundstage and image depth like live music.i have listened to the to top Meitner, Chord ,ps audio ,and others they just sonicly are not in the same league as these.
Lampizator USA call Rob I am sure you can get a audition ,for 2 week money back audition,and for sure Buy the a final touch audio usb cable retail $850 best usb cable under $1500 .you can for sure get $$ off if serious .i own their lesser model but spent $$$ modding my out to get close .
Lampizator is well respected around the world.
Fascinating thread....I considered my dac high end yesterday now no more...oufff :)


I wonder how much of the above we all comprehend? What was the question again?!
Any DAC with the top shelf DA chip-sets is halfway to nirvana, the other half is quite a mark of the jitter and clock designs...that’s the hard part to DAC design. The designers who get that second part right are leading the market and most of us consumers have no idea what that is all about. Someone above said it is very difficult to hear many differences in a blindfolded Pepsi challenge, I agree with that.

Take a block of gold and machine out a pocket so it slides over a iFi Audio PRO iDSD DAC and then you’ll have a DAC that streams, has a preamp mode, has a tube stage, upsampling filters, ultra-quiet power supply etc. and still sounds sounds better than any $20k DAC on the market.
Machine some solid knobs out of silver and glue them onto the two rotary controls, you’ll still have a DAC that sounds better than a $25k unit.
I have no problem paying $20k plus for a DAC, I don’t care what a DAC costs. I want the BEST DAC for my two systems, and spent a lot of time searching for it, both systems are running McIntosh gear. the office system (near field) is using active ATC monitors where the listener can hear the DAC’s smallest nuances with extreme detail, as well as everything else on the recording.
https://ifi-audio.com/products/pro-idsd/I have two iFi PRO iDSD DACs and until something big happens I don’t think it gets any better.

Steve Segal in Seattle is a very personable dealer who is one-on-one with all his customers.

Audio Video Concepts and Design

15336 NE 96th PL. Suite C-3

Redmond, WA. 98052

(PH) 425.881.5621

www.avcd.com & steves@avcd.com


I don’t know where to buy the block of gold, but you’ll have plenty of funds left over to do so.


This list reads like the A+ category of Stereophile's recommended processor list.  So let me add the  PS Audio PerfectWave DirectStream DAC from that list.
I've had this DAC for 2 years now and really like it.  I've got it connected to a McIntosh MX151 -> MC452 -> B&W 803D2, which is my front speaker setup.  You can make it a network streaming endpoint using the Network Bridge II card, which I do have installed.  But I have to say it sounds a little better going through my old Mac Mini (2012) via a WireWorld USB cable.  Either way it's an excellent DAC and has the advantage of being able to upgrade it's firmware via an SD card on its rear panel, each upgrade does make it sound better too (it uses FPGAs), I've been through 5 firmware upgrades now and each as refined the sound for better.  

https://www.psaudio.com/directstream-dac

Additionally, I'm currently using Roon for streaming to it today, along with 4 other endpoints in my house.  When switching to Digital its software that is also worth a look. For me it really took the headache out of streaming and has made my listening experience fun without working to get music streamed reliably.

https://roonlabs.com