Seriously considering tube preamp…opinions?


Tube virgin, here. I am building a system and I'm trying to contain the preamp/amp cost to $3k or so. (I could go up a little.) 

I'm inclined not to dive into tubes all the way through, but get a solid state on the output end. (Open to suggestions; inclined toward PS Audio, Parasound.) I'm reading around about tube preamps and have talked with my local dealer, who sells Black Ice/Jolida and Prima Luna (PL). He used to carry Rogue but said they kept coming back for repairs. That's why he carries PL.

I'm asking these questions after having established (via reviews, comments) that Schiit gear is quite the value. Lately, I've been reading about Decware and other small tube makers. I'm very curious about buying direct, if possible, and a company that stands behind their products is crucial.

So, your opinions about tube integrated or *especially* tube preamps —

1. Who do you like? Consider I want to do pre/amp for a total of $3k if possible.

2. Do you think PL is worth all that money just for a preamp? I get the feeling they're high quality but a bit over-hyped. (No disrespect to the highly passionate Kevin Deal, but he's all over my search results.) And what would you think about $2k/$1k preamp-to-amp spending ratio?

3. Any sense of what happened to Jolida since the name change to "Black Ice"? I see there's a sordid story there but did the re-branding clear up the mess? Any experiences with the Black Ice company?

4. I know there are many Schiit fans out there; so my question would be -- did anyone consider Schiit for tube preamp and go another way? Or move beyond Schiit for any particular reason? It's hard not to just capitulate and do a Freya+ or Saga+ but why wouldn't one just go with Schiit?




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Exactly, and there is at least one 30wpc Class A solid state amp that could potentially displace my current mono tube amps but won’t let myself near it. Well, maybe....ugh :)
pfieffer +2  I'm running the Mercury 3 right now with a very high end setup and it rocks.  The Ultraverve should be great.
If this thread is any indication, the only solution is to “buy and try” as I always say. I’ve owned 60+ amps, and currently own 12 of them.  They all have different strengths and musical preferences.  There is no “best.”  My suggestion is that you buy the amps that tickle your fancy the most, for whatever reason, and give them a try.  There’s a million factors in this, many of which haven’t even been brought up in this thread, so having a bunch of random amps and preamps thrown at you won’t help.  Ultimately it takes experimentation to figure out where you are, what you like, what your room likes, and what your speakers like.  Let the room choose the speakers, let the speakers choose the amp, let the amp choose the preamp.  Good luck and enjoy the ride.