Luxman d-08u vs berkeley reference 2 dac

RIAA,
Have you demoed the d08u or the berkeley ref2 dac?
I also heard that even the d08 is not on the same level as the d08u. In fact, everyone that actually has owned a d08u has had nothing but good things to say about it. I wish I could personally demo the luxman d08u in my system but its not possible. luxman no longer makes that unit and not many dealers are going to let you take the luxman home. So i am just going on other listeners' experience. 

Just wanted to say, and I know this is off topic, the little DA-150 DAC/headphone amp Luxman makes looks really interesting.  I took a picture of the insides, looks like a fully discrete headphone amp section.  Just in terms of the headphone amp portion, seems overbuilt compared to the other DACs.

Best,

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First of all the Shitt LOKI is not a Dac.  Its basically a 4 band Equalizer which is why Jetter suggested it.  I have the Luxman D-08U but haven't used it. I have Half a dozen disc spinners. Will get around to it eventually.  No experience with Berkeley at all

What made the Luxman D-08U that much better than the older D-08. The USB was added, updates to the DAC, but having heard both side by side, if I blinded folded you and switch back and forth a few times you be hard pressed, when you get to this level and the newer unit, is more of a refinement with the addition of USB, it not going to be a huge improvement, now we are at a totally different new player the 10X now you can hear a different presentation, keep your D-08, save and buy the 10X not thev8U if you get the itch for a world class SACD player. 
Luxman had a more refined sound than the Esoteric players, which is upfront and in your face sound, I’ve owned the K-01 and enjoyed it. The brand sound is sort of like do of stylus A sound vs. Stylus B. All have their sound and colors. Which is why you build a system that pleases your ear, because you never going to hear what they hear in a studio.

Hey phillyb,

for CD and SACD playback, is there a big difference in the d-08 vs the d-08u.