Advice on....Snake Oil

I had my wife much to her annoyance read through a few cable sites. Never found one where there was a snowball’s chance to even bother the consumer protection agency to much vagueness in their claims. So yeah I did spend a little time looking into it but as I said she told me to forget it. 

cleeds3,166 posts08-11-2020 2:49pmdjones51

If you're asking why I haven't it's because my wife is an attorney who explained to me why it would be a waste of time ...

So it would be a waste of time to file a fraud complaint with your state consumer protection agency, but it's worth your time to repeat the same claims here over and over and over again? Right.

Touche!! this guy is the biggest of Snake Oil Screechers in all Agon threads, and who knows, in many other audio forums. Question is why?

thyname-

Why are the Snake Oil Screechers so loud?

Nobody knows for sure but I have a theory. To be an audiophile is to have mastered a large and highly complex skill set. It requires at a minimum a basic grounding in acoustics, psycho-acoustics, electricity and electronics. This is all on top of the absolutely essential skill set of being a good listener. Being able to recognize, evaluate, and talk about what you’re hearing and to be able to do that down to the subtlest, finest degree. Finally, the cherry on top of this great big cake is the only reason its really worth doing at all is a love of music.

Well now, that’s a pretty tall order. Nobody ever really gonna get there. Being otherwise normal people some are gonna love music a lot more than physics. Some are gonna love electronics and measuring more than listening. Some are gonna just latch onto it for who knows what reason. To get girls. To live the dream of the glossy ad. Who knows?

Doesn’t matter. What matters is we all know this is true. Know it in our bones.

Well now this being the case, imagine you really want to be an audiophile, but its too hard. You can’t hear. Its too much mental effort. It costs too much. You’re too lazy to try. Whatever. Could be a lot of reasons. Doesn’t matter. Point is, its frustrating. Then you look around, see a bunch of dudes effortlessly doing it. Well, its just too much. You just can’t take it any more. You have failed, and its just not fair. On top of everything else your vocabulary is as limited as your intellect. All you can do is scream at the world: "Snake oil."

Mr Jones, atmapheres post is 100 percent relevant. It’s obvious anything that doesn’t help your cause, isn’t relevant, as per you, lol. That dosnt mean much it seems. We all know you’re anti any improvements, cables, or others. If we extrapolate using you’re logic, then there are also no differences in audio equipment, their efforts to shield their products, to damp vibrations, Upgraded internal wiring,  are senseless. a capacitor of a a certain rating is the same as any other. But, we all know this isn’t true either. Funny how some of you get to decide when and what products they do and do not matter with.

Is there a difference between cutting LPs and consumer amplifiers as far as vibration and leveling? I think you're comparing apples to sardines.

@djones51
There is of course a difference but your analogy does not hold up. Amplifiers respond differently to 'feet' and by this I mean vibration transfer or damping devices such as points or sorbathane feet. If the amplifier is solid state it likely will respond less; if tube the difference will likely be easily both measurable and audible due to the difference in microphonics produced. When you can both hear it and measure it, its real.