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Serious Problems with Qobuz

About six weeks ago I started having trouble with Qobuz. Many recordings that are available to stream suddenly appeared as "Unavailable" in Roon and as "Sample" in Qobuz own app (in this last case, you can stream only about a minute of each track and nothing more). I contacted Qobuz on several occasions and they emailed me saying that it is a "rights" problem. The labels affected are Chandos, BIS, Naxos, Capriccio, and CPO, and not all of the recordings are affected but mainly high resolution ones, and featuring certain composers, orchestras, conductors and performers. According to Qobuz, Naxos is the culprit as it owns all of those labels. Qobuz mentioned that the "are working with the labels to solve the problem", but up to now nothing has happened and the list of unavailable recordings is growing. In fact, some labels, like BIS and Chandos, have told some customers that have contacted them about this problem, that they are not the ones doing this.

Interestingly, this is not affecting the same recordings in Tidal, which are only available in CD resolution (44.1/16). This raises the question, at least for me, how viable is Qobuz when the recordings I want to listen to are being made unavailable. Mind you, recordings that were available before and which I listened to and marked as "favorites". Customers are paying for this service, which is not cheap, and it seems that Qobuz is reneging on the recordings it made available when one signs on.

I asked some very well known reviewers, some who had featured Qobuz reviews and interviews with the company's CEO, but none answered, and one is "sponsored" by Qobuz.

Qobuz has to answer to its customers and be forthcoming about the real problem and let us know if this problem can be solved or not. If not, they will be losing a lot of customers to others. A very bad way to run a business.
brucknermahler
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Did you read all the small print on your subscription, I don't think they guarantee that they will always have the music that they may have at any given time. They are still way better than cable or satellite tv, who will make you sign a contract and then drop the channels you had when you signed up.

Tidal is the same, I had some Ronnie Earl MQA albums on tidal then they vanished about a year ago.


cycles2
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I find Qobuz customer service to be very good.  I recently emailed Sebastien who provides most of the Qobuz customer email promotions.  I asked Sebastien if Qobuz could look into getting Lyle Lovett on their service as most Lyle Lovett albums have terrific SQ.  He replied quickly letting me know that he would look into it.

About 3 weeks later I get an email from Sebastien letting me know they posted most of Lovett's collection on Qobuz.  Even if I was lucky and they were already in the process of doing this isn't the point.  The point is that Sebastien took the time to reply and hope I enjoyed listening to the Lovett albums.  This is a characteristic of a world-class customer support organization.
brucknermahler OP
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First, I do have a very large collection of cd, lp, tape. I still buy them. However, there are many recordings available snd I can’t buy the all, so I rely an streaming services for them.

Second, yes it has been Sebastien the person I have been communicating with. And it was him who told me about the rights issues. There is another person from Qobuz USA who I have been in touch too, but I do not have his name immediately available. And, in addition, I have maintained communication with some members of the Roon community which have  experienced the same problem and have contacted persons from the labels affected, including the CEO of BIS recordings. And these persons mentioned that they had not changed thei availability of those recordings. The only culprit, it seems up to now if the rights issue is real, is Naxos, who owns all those labels. But, at this moment this is only a speculation based on Qobuz information.
big_greg
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Now you agree that these "serious problems" aren't with Qobuz as  your thread title states.  It sounds like they've been quite responsive actually. Good to hear! 
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rvpiano
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As someone already suggested, go to IDAGIO,  Much better in every way than Qobuz for classical, INCLUDING sound quality. I have both services, but only use Qobuz for non classical.
btw, Adore Mahler, but HATE Bruckner.
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