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Looking for more detail in a speaker

Kind of a long first post but needed the space to set up my situation. 
I decided to do something about my speaker situation after demoing a pair of B&W 805d’s. One of the tracks played was Sympathy for the Devil. At the beginning of the song, a percussion instrument, either a guiro or cabasa, just popped out at me on the left speaker. I’ve heard that song a million times but never noticed that percussion instrument coming at me like that. I came home and played the track through my system, through my streamer and turntable. My speakers are Golden Ear Triton One’s. That same presentation just isn’t there like with those 805’s.
The GET1’s are certainly decent speakers; are they not designed for this type of detailed presentation? Is it my room? My listening room is a odd shaped man attic with a 3.5’ wall on one side with an 8’ wall on the other side peaking a 9’ in the middle. My listening position is about 17’ from the speakers.  I’m sure the room is acoustically challenged. Also, I have a long speaker wire run, like 40’. Does that contribute to the lack of detail? I figured out a way to trim about 15’ of speaker wire length from each run and plan to do that ASAP. I’m using AudioQuest construction rated wire. I believe they’re 14 gauge.
So, why not buy the 805’s? I’ve thought seriously about them but concerned they’ll be kind of small for my room. Seems like I need floor standers. I’d like to keep any replacement speakers at $4k. I have an opportunity to pick up a pair of Dynaudio S5.4s for $4k but haven’t made a move in them yet. 
Any suggestions on a speaker selection or adjustments to my room or speaker wire are appreciated. To sum it up, I’m looking for more instrument detail with good sound staging either by making tweaks to my current set up or getting another flavor of speakers. Thx. 
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b_limo
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I agree that it was just the way the 805D was “voiced”.  Probably a certain range of frequencies were elevated. There are many variables for sure though.  Everything was different...  It also could have to do with the B&W’s being more open which in turn allows to hear more clearly the underlying tones and get a better understanding of an instrument.

A few pairs of speakers you might want to check out are:
-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signatures.  Theres a pair for $3500 in zebrawood.  You’ll have to talk the srller into shipping though.  Each speaker uses 5 seas excel drivers. Seas excel are awesome drivers and are used in many great sounding, expensive speakers.  

-Paradigm Tributes.  Theres a pair here on Audiogon for $2750.  These are also awesome sounding speakers and use a very nice sounding Beryllium Tweeter.  
-Those Dyn’s you are considering look to be nice as well but the driver configuration is a bit strange... not sure how they’d sound while walking around the room with the tweeters so low.  Dynaudio makes a great product though.  Really well designed and built!

I think any of these 3 speakers I mentioned would be a step up in refinement from the GE’s.
rego
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@bfoura, Guiro is listed in a mid (400 - 4000 Hz) frequency range ("the default value is 2500 Hz.") while the most emphasis for room treatment is for a range of less than 400 Hz. 
The noted difference you hear may be due to system Components like a DAC (or Pre Amp / Phono Pre Amp) for example.
Don't be too quick to fault speakers as the focus.
Volume can have an effect on perceived quality as well.
Experiment with the distance between L / R position for best perceived power output ...
ebm
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If you want more detail upgrade to MAGICO A3s.They cost more but sound much better.
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bfoura OP
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@b_limo thanks for the speaker recommendations. Would prefer to hear in person before buying but I’ll do some research determine if any of those are worthy of taking a chance. Your word ‘refinement’ nails what I’m looking for in my GE’s by making some adjustments or going with another speaker. To me, that’s what I liked hearing from the 805’s. 
@rego, you make a good point about the source and components. Not sure if the res of the file. Seems like he was using his Apple Music library but could have been something else. I did stream that song through Tidal in my system but wasn’t the same as the audition. 
@ebm Magico’s are out of reach at this point in my life. A local dealer who carries Magico’s also has Spendor A2’s and A3’s and Davone Twists that I could demo and closer to my budget. Any thoughts on those for more refined speakers than the GE’s? 
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mijostyn
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Well bfoura, If you are game look for a pair of used Magnepan 3.7i's.
If they do not show any signs of damage and the Tweeter works you are in business. The trade off will be less deep bass but the mid bass is very detailed and in the minds of many makes up for the loss. You can always add subwoofers down the line. Most of us once competent with panels will not use anything else. Some turn out not to like them usually for aesthetic reasons. A lot of us think they are sharp looking. Good luck getting it sorted out. Do check o ut the DEQX premate.
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