Benjamin would say, "One might subsume the eliminated element in the term “aura” and go on to say: that which withers in the age of mechanical reproduction is the aura of the work of art. This is a symptomatic process whose significance points beyond the realm of art. One might generalize by saying: the technique of reproduction detaches the reproduced object from the domain of tradition. By making many reproductions it substitutes a plurality of copies for a unique existence. And in permitting the reproduction to meet the beholder or listener in his own particular situation, it reactivates the object reproduced."
Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"
Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"
I am sharing this for those with an interest. I no longer have vinyl, but I find the issues involved in the debates to be interesting. This piece raises interesting issues and relates them to philosophy, which I know is not everyone's bag. So, you've been warned. I think the philosophical ideas here are pretty well explained -- this is not a journal article. I'm not advocating these ideas, and am not staked in the issues -- so I won't be debating things here. But it's fodder for anyone with an interest, I think. So, discuss away!
https://aestheticsforbirds.com/2019/11/25/spin-me-round-why-vinyl-is-better-than-digital/amp/?fbclid...
I am sharing this for those with an interest. I no longer have vinyl, but I find the issues involved in the debates to be interesting. This piece raises interesting issues and relates them to philosophy, which I know is not everyone's bag. So, you've been warned. I think the philosophical ideas here are pretty well explained -- this is not a journal article. I'm not advocating these ideas, and am not staked in the issues -- so I won't be debating things here. But it's fodder for anyone with an interest, I think. So, discuss away!
https://aestheticsforbirds.com/2019/11/25/spin-me-round-why-vinyl-is-better-than-digital/amp/?fbclid...
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Benjamin would say, "One might subsume the eliminated element in the term “aura” and go on to say: that which withers in the age of mechanical reproduction is the aura of the work of art. This is a symptomatic process whose significance points beyond the realm of art. One might generalize by saying: the technique of reproduction detaches the reproduced object from the domain of tradition. By making many reproductions it substitutes a plurality of copies for a unique existence. And in permitting the reproduction to meet the beholder or listener in his own particular situation, it reactivates the object reproduced."Very good.... Benjamin knows very well that the participation to the cosmos through our Soul/body was the root of the prophetical corrective action of the art on the society.... This therapeutical sacred fonction was dying with the complete technologisation of the world.... How to spare the function of the artist in the A. I. world? The truth is any technological progress that is too rapid in relation to social evolution and metabolic capacity will de destructive... In particular in our immature social order now on the planet...Because the technological progress will be seize for more power by a small very small minority... Art become a commodity in this world and the artist is only a piece on the vast mechanical social conditioning... The difference between A.I. and human intelligence is that A. I. dominate the universe by transforming it like a material to his own criteria and exigences...A.I. dont understand and cannot nor want to understand the cosmos but transform it for his own sake, like in Star Trek the impossible to stop Borg civilization... Human intelligence is connected to the root of all living intelligence, from bacteria to angelic realms, that make all across the universe only ONE intelligence that try to understand and respect each other without reducing a living consciousness to be a "thing" or a "material" for other work.... Digital is not unhuman tough and vinyl more human...It is music that play the first and last part, and music need sound but is not reducible to sound...Nor to his sound vehicle... Some music created works transport more human and divine content than others....Then it is not so much the format vehicle which is destructive but the orientation of the creativity of the artist and of the society in this future totalitarian technocracy ... Nowadays the artist has always this choice: reconnecting the soul to the cosmos or creating a sterile virtual hedonistic bubble... the artist duty is more to reconnect man to the living cosmos than to only the old tradition... The stake is eternity and no more only the survival of any tradition....It is the last hours, we are all saved together or all lost ... We wait like Benjamin to the messiah but a totally new one and a different one in each of us....In this multiplicity only we will be able to be one.... Too much words.... I sense the despair of some.... 😁 |
cd318 comes closest to capturing my own feelings on the subject. As with all things human subjectivity is colored by the environment, socialization, motivation and training. In many instances something is better because we believe it to be. In many instances what we prefer is significantly inferior by objective means. Certainly there is a large group on either side of this equation. I say they are both right. It is not my place to force my religion on others. I listen to what I prefer. Everyone should do the same. |
Saved me the time of writing it ... mapman18,215 posts12-23-2020 12:36pmVinyl is a 100 year plus old flawed technology. People spend a fortune trying to address the flaws and still can never win because all records have flaws it’s just a matter of how many and how much. |
Wow! i just listen this comparison between highly costly amplifiers on youtube.... And even through my audio system i can listen to the unnatural timbre of the voices and instruments and the choice of details over the flowing musicality...I know for sure that this audio system will be very much fatiguing for me....Amazing...The same files playing on my system dont sound so unnatural.... Give it to me and with my embeddings methods and controls i will set it correctly.... For now it is horrible for the price paid...What i dont understand is that the organizer seems very happy with that....🙄 I think that they dont listen music they look for details....Perhaps their youtube recorded files is not good? if i compared with the normal youtube file of Dire Straits it is way better....Then the room where it is recorded for their amp comparison is acoustically non treated one or badly treated indeed ( i hear too much echoing )... The ordinary Dire Straits on youtube is not fatiguing at all ... I think that they use a dac with digital files, in these case a turntable would do better it seems or my low cost NOS dac... 😁 One of the amp is a Mephisto : 55,000 us dollars.... My own system value is 500 hundred dollars....😊 Spare your money all of you, dont upgrade, and instead embed what you already own rightfully...Be it vinyl or digital... 😎 I am not so surprized, there exist also a video with one million dollars system on youtube that did not sound natural even through my own audio system.... My audio system is musical, natural more warm than dry, with plenty of details but any timbre is natural sounding and incarnated and not cartoonishly detailed with no flesh on the skeleton...My imaging and soundstage fill all my room... This system in youtube also for sure but the timbre of voices and instument is unnatural...Detailed and thin....Fatiguing to say the least.... Understand me right tough: all the element of these audio systems are vastly superior to mine....BUT they are not rightfully embed at all and that is easy to hear...It seems even some professional dont always know how to embed their system... Give me the system i will make it sing in a room where i will set an acoustical treatment and acoustical controls, and also my own recipe for mechanical and electrical grid controls at very low cost... It is very satisfying to be happy with what we have even after a comparison.... I know that some will accuse me of arrogance and pretense....I hesitate to make this post.... I make it nevermind the critic because we must all learn that it is not money that buy audiophile experience but rightful embeddings controls... Anyway, in the worst case my "illusions" if my experience is an illusion, spare me much money indeed....😷🤓🤗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gueDCNUAapI |
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