The problem is, it cant really be both. It can only be one or the other.The problem is the way you frame your arguments. Your premises are always flawed, like you’re looking for a fight and your intention is to troll, which is so painfully obvious to anyone who’s followed you long enough.
The science is always in the development of the speaker, done by the maker and those who’ve gone before. The end product is the art, the speaker itself.
You’ve run out of arguments. Get over it, and yourself.
All the best,
Nonoise