New to analog


I spent the last 6-8 months building a decent (at least to me) system that I enjoy quite a bit. I sold my CD player about a year ago and currently only relying on streaming. I was in the market for a nice CD player but figured why not give this analog thing a shot and see what all the fuss is about. So here we are :)

One thing to keep in mind is that while I might be a total noob when it comes to analog/vinyl, I've been dabbling in audio for almost 15 years and have gone through my fair share of system. So I have a good idea of what I like -- warmth over neutrality, but not overly lush. I like dynamics but not at the expense of timber and tonality. Mostly listen to jazz, vocals, classical, and classic rock. My system includes ...

Sonore opticalRendu streaming via Roon/Qobuz/Tidal
Luxman DA-06 DAC
Luxman 590AXII
Sonus Faber Olympica II

My goal in building an analog rig is to treat it as a journey instead of trying to get to the end game right away. I want to start with buying a turntable and use the phono stage in my Luxman. Just like other things in audio, I suspect there's a tipping point, in terms of dollars, below which you cannot appreciate what analog brings to the table. I know a few folks who bought fairly low end TTs and gave up claiming that vinyl is no better than CDs. I don't know if that really is the case, or they were playing below the tipping point. So the question is where does that point lie? I obviously don't want to start with SOTA turntables but also don't want to cheapen out so much that I'm not able to experience the magic if you will. So now on to some specific questions ...

1. Since I'm starting out, I want to buy used to maximize value and stay within the sweet spot (whatever that happens to be). Good idea? Or too risky given so many moving parts (literally) when it comes to turntables? Is $2500 a decent target for used and 'gentle' introduction? Feel free to suggest cheaper alternatives by all means. At this point, I want to set the bar to a max of $3000.

2. Which manufacturers/models to consider and which to stay away from? I don't want something that's too complex for a newbie. I know that I will be upgrading in the future so something with good resale value would be nice.

3. I've seen some TTs sold without cartridges. Given that I'm totally inexperienced I think I want to get something that includes everything except phono stage. Am I overthinking, or should I be open to buying separately?

4. Finally, feel free to share any obvious do's and don'ts that I should keep in mind.
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If you want low stress, Technics 1200GR. GEM Dandy Polytable is worth a look.
If you want to invest in a project that will yield superior sound, look at a refurbished Garrard 401 from AudioGrail etc. 
In terms of simplicity, Nottingham is easy to set up. I remember it took me probably less than half an hour to do it. Cartridge installation and alignment takes additional time. After that you just change the oil every year or so, and you might want to check everything at about the same time. The belt lasts for a long time, the motor is reliable and not really expensive if you have to replace it. 
I replaced the record mat that comes with Nottingham, as does just about everyone, with Boston Audio mat. There are other options. I also don't use the Nottingham platform, I put the table on 3" thick maple platform. Again, most people do just that. 2" thick is minimum, some do 4" thick. And you would need some decent cones under the platform.
I would buy from a local dealer. The dealer might have a trade-in that would allow some additional value to you.

If they don't have a TT you want to buy, get that on-line and buy the cartridge locally so the dealer can set it up for you. 

Get a cheap ultrasonic cleaning machine. There is a thread on this something like "my new hobby is cleaning records"
My journey last year, lots of help here, led to an extremely happy result, one deck with 3 tonearms: Long 12.5" Arm for MC; 9" Arm for MM; Compact 9" Arm for MONO. All aligned, balanced, instant back and forth Stereo/Mono in a listening session. I play a lot of Jazz, many Mono LPs.

It began with a Vintage JVC Dual Arm Plinth CL-P2: Stereo Arm and Mono Arm.

This, from Japan is expensive shipping, but shows the JVC deck well:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-JVC-CL-P2D-Plinth-for-TT-71-TT-81-TT101-Direct-Drive-Turntable/32440...

Then I realized I was using my MC to play LP’s that were fun but not audibly dynamic, or to test LP’s for sale, wearing out a non-replaceable Stylus, so I squeezed a 3rd arm on the left side, to get the 3 types, use the replaceable stylus for ’less than special’ LP’s

My finished 3 arm deck can be seen in the last photo of my eBay listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612076659

New 3 arm solutions exist, the special 7 layer plinth is terrific.

I went with TT81. None currently. Check out previously sold items on hifishark:

https://www.hifishark.com/search?q=victor+tt-81

Happily I found this Vintage SUT with 3 inputs, bypass for MM and 4 optional loads for MC, so I only need 1 MM phono input.

Now, 1 beat up, 1 too expensive, they frequently come up in eBay, and other SUT's exist with 3 inputs.

https://www.hifishark.com/search?q=fidelity+research+frt-4

Good luck with your search, expect lots of good help here.







A turntable is really the combination of the table and the rack. A lot of the best performance is only really possible with a massive stable solid rack. Which extends to include the floor. So while all your choices may be pretty similar when used on that massive solid stable floor/rack system, if that's not what you have that's not what you'll experience.

I've helped people solve the problems with not so good placements, and the problems are usually worse and harder to solve when the turntables are really light weight. So you will want to consider very realistically where and how it will be used.