Synergistic calls out Audioholics

I will repeat something i wrote already but which is very important to understand....

That will explain why i am not very interested by the products of one of the side nor by the pseudo debunking claim of the other side...

For their personal feud i am not interested by inquiring i am not a judge...




There are 2 falsehoods i see percolating in the audio industry...

---One is a sin by OMISSION by the electronic design marketing companies when they suggest: buy our own electronic design and your audiophile experience is assured and warrented...

This is half truth at best nevermind the real S.Q. value of the product because audiophile experience is ALSO mostly tributary of the controls of many psycho acoustical factors outside the scope of the electronic design of any piece of electronic gear speakers included....

---The other sin is by FALSIFICATION of science by abuse of some aspect of technology... Some tried to convince people that audiophile experience is reducible ONCE AND FOR ALL to the measures of some known chosen electrical parameters... This is completely false because audiophile experience is generally tributary of many psychoacoustical factors outside of the scope of these selected chosen parameters...The EARS are a measuring apparatus and the most important one, negating this is not only blindness but pure stupidity and plain ignorance...



Then i dont need Gene nor Ted...

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By the way i know first hand that mechanical acoustic controls exceed anything in upgrading power.... We listen to speakers/room at last...And i can replicate the audible effects of many costly "tweaks" anyway....

For those hypnotized by pricing, i never listen to anything that moves me enough to trash my 500 bucks system correctly embedded.... Than forget price, think about mechanical, electrical ands especially acoustical embeddings... Trust yourself....

If you want to know if your room is good, listen to The Three penny opera 1958 by Kurt Weill with Lotte Lenya and if you could listen the orchestra playing in front of you, seating in front of your speakers, but the singers voices coming from your back wall where there is no speakers, your room is under acoustic controls....If not, buying a cable AT ANY PRICE will not give you this nor buying most tweaks or a costly dac or amplifier.... Acoustic is key....

I will not speak about voice timbre or instrumental timbre which sound unnatural even in very costly systems or very tweaked one i listen to...

Forget price think acoustic....

@mikado430


 Well, it’s a bit late for that. Gene is kind of put himself in a bad place. Read through the recent posts above. If has left the building, when and how are what remain

One of slimiest snake oil salesmen in the biz. 

Regarding cables, I have been using the same Kimber cables for years. Never tried to change them out with anything better or worse. The set up sounds quite good to my ears, I’m not a “chaser” of these things.  But I did have something interesting happen recently. While making changes to the components in a crossover I’m working on, I had to swap out the hook up wires as I had to move the crossover outside of the enclosure so I could more easily make changes to the components. I had run out of the 16ga I was using and had to switch to some very questionable 20ga wire. 
All of a sudden, Bill Charlap’s piano was distorting like crazy around the 1K mark. 
Wires. That was the cause. 

Also, Fun fact...dug out some old cables I have on hand just to check my ears. They all sound different...sorry Audioholics 😔 Reminded me why I love MIT products...just so much more realistic sounding on every level! My REV MIT loom delivers better tone, articulation, clarity, dynamics, bass definition and extended airy highs.

I do like to try wires with radically different designs that are clear and apparent as opposed to those with slightly different twists on the same old same old.

THose tend to make the biggest differences that actually might matter to me.

WHich is better/best? How much are they worth? No clue. THey are just different enough to sound different....which is better is still a totally subjectively assessment and what works best will vary case by case/system by system.

MIT is one I’ve tried and use. These tend to deliver a less strident top end than most. Probably due to the network box they use which is clearly a thing. The highs are rolled off a bit. I use them for that reason if/when needed.

The other is DNM Reson, my personal favorites and go-to IC. Not shielded but I have addressed that separately when needed. I find the solid wire minimalist design in their ICs deliver a more coherent sound to my ears than any others I have tried. Have not tried their speaker wires. Not sure if such thin gauge wire is really a good idea there, but hey I’m sure some go for it and are happy. Gotta be a lot of profit in such an effective minimalist design like DNM Reson, but not outrageously priced, especially used...very affordable for many, so not a big deal.

The difference between DNM and MIT is about as night and day as it gets I suspect. I can easily tell which is in use at least on my main more resolving setup.

SO just to summarize, I know wires CAN sound different, though not always, maybe even in most cases. The devil is in the details. Also I am not a SR fan. Too expensive, some bad karma, little concrete to back up big claims, and just no reason to deal with all that.