Calling for recommendations: Speakers for a very lively room


To my dismay, I recently returned a set of Zu Omen Dirty Weekends to the manufacturer.

I spent a solid sixty days moving the speakers through my room, re-organizing my room, moving inexpensive panels and blankets and cushions into various reflection points, and occasionally the DW's would do what they were supposed to do: creating a sublimely vivid soundstage and lifelike musical forms... 

Unfortunately, it was like that "good time" you can never pin down, it just doesn't hold steady long enough to do its thing consistently, and the speakers mostly muddied my ears, or sheared them off. The room was the apparent culprit, with one large window on the north side, a three glass-door closet on the west wall, and a fireplace on the east wall.

It was disappointing and I can say that the speakers would give me just enough of a feeling for what they could do to push me to try 'one more thing' but in the end, I could see that the next step was heavy investment in professional tiles, absorbers, diffusers with no real understanding of what would address the problem. I was also 'out of time' and didn't want to find myself an owner of a set of speakers I couldn't control. Gerrit at Zu, a very helpful fellow, also offered the observation that a room treatment might solve one problem only to introduce another.

I appreciate a guy who sees how one move implies another. 

So, I'm looking around for something else...

I'm thinking bookshelf speakers might be better. One friend offered the observation that a more directional speaker is needed, perhaps something with a horn. That makes sense... What do you all think? I'd like to keep the price at the limit of what I spent on the DW's: about $1300 (I had the Jupiter caps installed). Frankly, I'm seeing many options in the bookshelf category that look attractive at $500, like the Klipsch RP600M, for instance. I'm not sure how that speaker would fit/sound in my room...

Thanks in advance!
listening99
Hello, everyone... I appreciate the thoughts. 

I'm reading critique of horns and I wonder if this extends to the narrow dispersion characteristics found in the Klipsch 500/600M's. 

Soft dome actually makes sense... Again, thinking under $1300, what do you all recommend? What have you tried? The 3A de Capos is over $3000 - WAY over budget, but the reviews are greatly complementary.

AMPS: The AMPS I'm running are a Dennis Had Firebottle KT88 SEP (11wpc) and a Nuforce STA200 (75wpc).

SOURCE: I'm currently using Deezer hi-resolution as a source.

Thanks!


@speakermaster What do you suggest? I'm timid about old used equipment. I've done well with new used. Bought the fire bottle a year ago and saved a few hundred, but it was only months old...
@OP,

I would also be in the camp of Klipsch not being the best match for a lively room, but haven't paired them with a nice low-watt tube amplifier.

You may want to reach out to wolf_garcia for opinion of Klipsch in your (very) lively room. I believe he is using the same amp as yourself, albeit with heritage series Klipsch.

What is your room size, and preference for standmount vs floorstander? There are a lot of great choices out there; not sure if you are strictly looking at new or used. The prior Spendor lineup was a bit too laid back for me, but may work well in a lively room. ProAc might be nice with your Firebottle amp. Proac is usually very good for low to moderate listening (some will say more, even), yet not something you have to "lean into" to hear. Both brands are out of budget if new, but used may be within the budget (ProAc D1 or D2 for standmounts, D18 floorstander). Disclaimer: I haven't reviewed the Firebottle specs vs ProAc or Spendor, for compatibility.
Live room...? No horns!

   Soft dome tweeter, or the folded tweeter.

 Martin Logan 40’s or 60’s.....
Much easier to find a Bookshelf to be driven by the STA200 than the Firebottle. 

I own the STA200. Has almost too much gain (0.45V sensitive). I use it with a passive pre. Doesn't increase output into a 4 ohm load so speaker matching is important. I am not familiar with the Deezer.