Nietzsche and Runaway Audio Consumption


Came across this today. A lot of posts bring up the issue of "how much is enough?" or "when is audio consumption justified" etc.

Does this Nietzsche aphorism apply to audio buying? You be the judge! 

Friedrich Nietzsche“Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. 

Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.” 

Nietzsche, Friedrich. 1996. Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits. Cambridge University Press. (p. 283-4, an aphorism no. 310)

I'm pretty sure @mahgister will want to read this one! (Because they speak so artfully about avoiding the diversion that consumption poses to the quest for true aesthetic and acoustic excellence.)

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The sad thing is, it's all a choice, and a conscious one at that. The spirit that could lead one to a better place has been intentionally disregarded for the data, however false, so as to take it's place and give meaningless, unrequited solace so one can do the unthinkable.

The more one does such things, the more it solidifies the actions and hardens the resolve to do more damage to those that prefer to function as a community, as it was always intended, for it is in community, that spirit, when practiced, is strengthened.

Unfortunately, the resultant, forced community of the false data driven can have the same sense and strength of community through rote practice but lacks the natural conviction and ease of living that resultantly benefits the spirit guided community.

It's probably why they're so angry all the time. They've created a world that isn't fulfilling which requires them to attack others instead of looking within.

All the best,
Nonoise

I will add to this discussion about Nietzsche that his master Schopenhauer had deep view about music revealing the "noumenal" or the "thing in itself", passing over or under or through the mere "representation" and linking the "will" in man to the universal cosmic will as ONE... Then music express the esthethical and the ethical dimension as 2 aspects of the same coin so to speak... This is the reason why music was so important phenomenon for S. and N. inherited this passion for music experience as a cosmic experience from S. himself...

S. was an admirer of the Spinozist Goethe, who is the recognized or unrecognized center of all the german philosophy even more than Kant himself...... And for Goethe colors express the same esthetical and ethical dimensions 2 aspect of the same "coin" and experience...In the same fashion the morphology of an animal is a book to be read in his environment whose chapters contains all the physiology of the animal and of the world itself.... For this read the monumental 1300 pages book of Wolfgang Schad

http://www.adonispress.org/threefoldness.php

Now physical Acoustic and psycho-acoustic , the science but also the lived experience of acoustic, express for me, like music an esthetical and a ethical lesson to the acoustician and to ourself : the location of our body in the world or in a room make us able with our attention to explore CONSCIOUSLY a perspectival meaningful world lived internally and externally as ONE WORLD...

More than that the perception of sound is the DIRECT perception, through the wave-image, of the INSIDE of a resonating object and an immediate perception of his density, of his topology, and of his intrinsic qualities located in a particular vibrational state in a pareticular environment...( this is the reason why the "timbre" experience for example cannot be reduced to his spectrum) .Intuition is then a compensated PERCEPTION here as real as for the senses...

For example the location of cavities , their number, the size of their aperture, the materials which compose them, be it dry wood or wet wood or diverse metals, be it a ripe fruit or not if we tap it to verify, etc, are revealed by tapping or putting the object in a resonant state... A cavern or a flute, not only fruits or rock are perceived directly for their qualities this way by prehistoric man or by blind man in their environment...Or by conscious listening experiment nowadays...

If you can read this article The Body-Image Theory of Sound: An Ecological Approach to Speech and Music by Akpan J. Essien is very instructive....So much i boight his doctorate thesis in a book...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/267327268_The_Body-Image_Theory_of_Sound_An_Ecological_Approach_to_Speech_and_Music

I will add that my insistence in audio thread about acoustic and psycho-acoustic, and about embeddings controls, is related to this experience of music and sound as ONE experience uniting world/body/ soul...

Then it has no relation to market consumerism conditioned ignorance upgrade obsession about sound only or about "taste"...

Any musical experience, in a lived event or recreated in a room, is also a unique acoustical and cosmic event...

Sound and music are like our body and soul ...Not one without the other....

We need no money at all to create our own experience it is my take about the freedom of spirit in the N. quote...

 

I thank heartfully the OP for the deep discussions made possible by this thread

out of the usual "branded name" or "Tweaks" discussion...

 

 

 

«Someone who know how to listen dont focus his attention about his "tastes" anymore»-Anonymus Smith

 

«Crocodiles live by their tastes, scientist dont»-Groucho Marx 🤓

«We listen with our body gesture, not only with our ears but with our lungs, ask any singer»-Anonymus Smith

 

«How ridiculous it would be ! A book called:  acoustic for your lungs»-Groucho Marx 🤓

Food for thought in all the above.

 

One thing we haven't touched on up to now, what about our own contribution to this cultivation of spirit. Aren't we artists of a kind in putting together audio systems? Yes, we want to experience the spirit of music and it's performance at home, but aren't we inherently contributing to this experience?

 

Which calls into question, what are our true intentions in this whole endeavor? I'm sure there are times when we feel spiritual connection to music and performance. Is there not also a feeling of pride, of self satisfaction in having put together this system that evokes such feelings? If this case then we ourselves are unquestionably part of this evocation of the spirit. 

 

So, is ego fulfillment part of our true intent as audiophiles?  Do we not superimpose ourselves into this musical performance? Based on my observations and personal experience, feelings of pride inevitable. Is this truly cultivation of the spirit or something else? Can the artist divorce him or herself from the masterpiece they have created?

 

Also, is pride inherently good spirit, or only good to a point? Certainly there is malevolent spirit in form of hubris. When does pride morph into hubris and how can we tell when it has?

 

Perhaps audiophilia is an affliction after all.