How to choose an upgraded tonearm.


In two recent threads on selecting an upgraded cartridge, some of you suggested a new tonearm was in order. Since I’ve never chosen a new tonearm, I’m asking you all for some advice on how to do so for that future event.

My current turntable is a VPI Classic 2 with a VPI JMW 10.5i unipivot tonearm. A new Lyra Kleos MC cartridge is on order. I’ll likely be changing to a gimbal style tonearm. The rest of the system is Magico A3 speakers, a Luxman 507uX MkII integrated amp, a Marants Ruby CD player, and a Shunyata Hydra Denali power conditioner.

What price range should an appropriate tonearm for the Lyra Kleos be in, that would also be in keeping with the price point of my Classic 2, The Classic 2 was in the $3-4,000 range, as is the Lyra Kleos. I’ll be purchasing new, not used, and will not be upgrading any other equipment than the tonearm.

Pardon some rookie questions, but what attributes should I be looking for in a quality tonearm? Who are some of the better known manufacturers, and which models of theirs might be workable? Are there other alternative to either a gimbal or unipvot tonearm? Are tonearms generally interchangeable between different manufacturers turntables? And what improvements in sound quality might be gained by upgrading my tonearm?

Since this is all new to me, any other advice you might have about things to consider would be greatly appreciated and will help kick off my research. Thanks,

Mike

skyscraper

Reminds me of my old Bang and Olufsen Beogram 4002 tangental straight arm tracking tonearm. Probably not nearly sophisticated as yours.

Mike

@lewm 

The description is from Vinyl Engine offering an explanation on the DTS System utilised by Audio Technica.

I believe it is this Tonearm that was the birthplace for the commonly used philosophy for a design, that has a Stylus Contact Point and Pivot Vertical Motion Point designed to be at the same level. (Pivot in the Plane of the LP, is a loose description for this design)   

To get the Math on the principle might be a little more difficult to acquire.

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AT - 1010 is a DTS (Dynamic Tracing System) Tonearm that blends an original design with new materials.

Also, the tracing performance of Universal Tonearms has been Totally Reconsidered in this new design.

Development efforts were aimed at improving the overall tracing performance of the dynamic system with a cartridge mounted.

This results in Improvement in Auditory Sensitivity and Elimination of Resonance.

One of the most obvious features of the AT-1010 is to Stabilise Stylus Force in Dynamic Variations, an inherent problem with Conventional, General Arms, caused by the change in velocity of the modulated record groove.

For this purpose, the front pipe is set at a far higher location than the pivot bearing.

Also, the arm is equipped with a damping mechanism to damp low frequency resonance.

As a result, this Tonearm gives a tracing performance that is in no way inferior to an integrated arm.

Review

The AT1010 exhibits a refined geometry, whereby the vertical motion pivot axis is in line with the stylus tip, thereby minimising the effect of varying stylus drag upon instantaneous downforce.

Forget my suggestion. I understand that it's now being made in Russia, not England.

Terry, will do. Nothing Russian now for sure,

Pindac, appreciate you explanation. 

 

@skyscraper The following underscored info', was not at any time a offered as a definitive guideline and made with the intention as being the method that should be followed. It was a suggestion put forward to help you realise that to experience an alternative Tonearm in use with your TT, there was options to tackle this idea. 

As you had already expressed an interest in machining a Task to produce a Standalone Pod seemed to be viable as a beginners project, either self produced or through dialogue with an engineering facility.

Additionally as you were expressing an inquisitive mind, I shared further info about the 'under the hood' considerations.

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I will offer a suggestion, and one that I was familiar with having happened in the past few years.

A friend who had purchased an SP10 R was needing to select a Tonearm for it.

As an avoidance of acting in haste, they had a Standalone Tonearm Pod produced for quite a reasonable outlay by a local to their home engineering workshop.

This mounting device enabled them to try things out in a manner that suited their needs, as the need to have a plinth produced to suit multiple arm types was not desired.

As the device and mounting of the TT was capable of allowing for all Tonearms Lengths, variances could be catered for, this proved to be very useful device to experience Tonearms of various Brands and Models.

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@skyscraper  In the first two posts of this Thread you were offered information on Tonearm Models.

By the third post you have shown you have been influenced by the offered ideas, for a Tonearm Brand and as further posts evolved, it was becoming clear you were toying with the idea of looking into discovering if alternate Tonearms were an option to be used on your TT.

In post 18, you were offered the idea of replacing the entirety of your TT Set Up with another Brands products, by the individual making the underscored statement statement below.

As usual on this forum, the information offered does go off topic, and such a suggestion to get rid of your present TT, reaches far beyond the initial OP request, of how to select a Tonearm, that might be a future event. 

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You have posts here that even gone to almost " stupid " advise for you as an external arm-pod when your needs are way different. Even you and certainly not me know for sure what you really need till the Kleos arrives .

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I hope you can differentiate the differences between the suggestion I have made.

Which was offered to help with your understanding of an option to use a device that could be acquired at quite a reasonable outlay, to enable an experience of a alternative Tonearm with your TT, and the suggestion to get rid of your TT set up and purchase a New Brand entirely. 

My suggestion, from my end seemed to be a cost effective method to broaden your experience, especially a experience that seems attractive to yourself to encounter, and usable on a TT that has limited options to use alternative Tonearms.

I certainly won't be informing an OP to get rid of the entirety of the LP Replay front end, when a inquiry is made about how to choose a Tonearm.

I certainly won't be making a statement that users of a Standalone Tonearm Pod whether encountered within a forum or outside, that their chosen method is ' stupid 

I certainly don't agree with those that think it is OK to express such futile types of comments either.