Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

emailists

Anybody individually must be welcome here ...

Why individually?

Because the goal of any education is to detach the individual from the groups and make him able to reinstall himself in the group less as a sheep but like a conscious individual being...

I hate censorship...

I hate groups...

I hate crowds...

I like discussions...

And do you want any audiophile being excluded from a group of non audiophiles?

i hate woke stupidity...

i love people of any kind INDIVIDUALLY... Like Christ i hate mobs of any kind ...

But if groups must be created for the sake of the society i will accept them but with SANE biological distinctions... 😁😊

My respect goes to individual only...

I count a couple of two to be an individual nevermind the sexes...

 

«Crowd begin with three adults »- Groucho Marx 🤓

«I discount children »

 

«In crowd there is the sheeps, the leader and the shaman, i prefer to stay out and i created the job of being a clown»-Groucho Marx 🤓

«Most clowns are free thinkers , and most free thinkers are perceived as clowns»-Groucho Marx 🤓

« Together we are way too much people brothers»-Groucho Marx 🤓

 

 

 

Free speech!!!!!????? Really? I didn't see anyone stand up for Millercarbon's "free speech"! Some have pointed out his poor manners. Yet these deniers have  some of the worst  manners.  They mock, ridicule and implicate that those who HAVE heard the tweaks are a  liar. Then others pile on with their offensive behavior until the whole  thread gets removed. Perfect Path Tech always gets cancelled for that very reason.Nano-flo gets the same treatment now.  As I said in a recent thread posted by @Hilde45, when one man's ox gets maliciously  gored, it should be an offense to all. But that doesn't happen today. Most only feel offended when it is THEIR ox which suffers the gore. Like children on a playground, they often laugh when  someone who they disagree with has their ox gored. As my old step daddy used to say, "right is right and wrong is wrong no matter WHO is doing it. Free speech comes only when THAT rule is applied. true freedom demands justice for all and NOT just those you like and agree with.

As @emailists  has said, (my edits)

It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories (when you have absolutely NO experience with said products  is not a (valid) discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

 Even so, I don’t like stifling someone’s opinion. They have a right to be wrong. But I get tired of the poor ethics & manners of those who call someone a liar without adequate cause. How would you go about proving they are a liar? You cannot. And in the  real world you may be liable for slander or a good old a**  whippin”        
Not only is this extremely poor manners, but it goes against the forum rules also. It  should not be allowed. As to the free speech issue, it DOES NOT apply to a business.

I’m glad that @emailists  has posted this because it has been on my mind for some time. Many good & knowledgeable people have left because of these poor manners which are allowed by Agon. I remember when every post had to be approved by the moderator.  I didn’t like it then nor would I like it now. But when you are in charge of a nursery, you must keep a close watch.. What a shame. Grown ups , some with advanced degrees, acting like impetuous children just to get their way, no matter who gets hurt.

Who decide who is a scammer and who is not?

You?

I prefer to test myself ...And i dont sell anything but i dont want to be paternally 

guided like a children...

If it is so easy to you to read THROUGH scammers intention, let me goes my way, i will myself decide for myself..

I dont like scammers groups but i dont like  also ALLEGED and self promoted NON-scammer  professional skeptic group...

I want to listen to each one here INDIVIDUALLY...

Scapegoating is like censorship...I hate it...

Scammers are everywhere these days and many are quite sophisticated in their methods so always beware. Emotional appeals to try and trigger a quick and poorly thought out response is a common tactic. It’s easy to read up and learn about what goes on these days.