I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.

What the OP is stating is that the website known as ASR and Amir himself, are both severely out of balance. Dangerously out of balance. This was announced via the stated point of Amir ’not actually listening to the given DUT’. (device under test)

There is a chance he did it purposely as a dig, as a poorly veiled spitting upon, as it were. Monkey talk. Purposeful escalation.

Importantly, one who does not use measurements at all, is also ’potentially’ out of balance.

’Potentially’ as they must understand that measurements DO count for something, even if that given gauge (ie, tool) or measurement system is not fully connected to the ear/brain aspects, as it is all currently understood. Ie, that we argue it, meaning it is not at all clear - as question and answer sets may go.

Discussion of realities begets solutions, which, to possibly bother some, via saying it... is why Musk is trying to buy Twitter. To prevent further slide into fascist psychological gaming ideology - being practiced upon us, via the window of Twitter. To enable actual discussion, not the current psychological manipulative directive where social media is being sculpted into being a hammer - by forces not recognized by the masses.

We’ve already seen the response, it is swift and outsized, which denotes panic. Which is inherently dangerous. Those who feel threat will commit to wild dangerous swings.

One theory is as good as the next I guess. You can manufacture conspiracies and ulterior motives in everything if you want to. Personally, I go for the simplest explanation first. All the measurement guys are telling you is that the product has poor measurements. OK. Thanks for the information. I’ll take it from here. 

So, I head over to AVS and read Amir's review

the website known as ASR and Amir himself

My bad, I am referring to ASR not AVS but they are both of the same ilk. 

@russ69

Can anybody provide some insight to why some people are stuck on audio measurements?

Because this is the way that the equipment we all love so much has been designed and built for decades and decades now.

We can trace this lineage way back to the likes of the great Peter Walker (legendary Quad designer) who claimed he didn’t need to listen to an amp to guage how it sounded if he could just see how it measured.

This was over 60 years ago.

So as far as the designer is concerned, the listening part is almost academic nowadays.

Quality control, when it’s actually done, is carried out by measurements and not by listening.

I hope this goes some way towards answering your question.

No one is saying that the consumer cannot make their buying decision on listening alone, certainly not Amir of ASR, but subjective listening is a completely different thing from objectively building something to perform as accurately as possible.

Unless accuracy is important to you, you can simply ignore factual data as you wish. That’s your choice.

It certainly would be a shame if your previous enjoyment of the Rogue Sphinx V3 is spoilt by factual data, but unfortunately that’s how many of us tend to behave that way.

I used to mainly buy equipment based on largely subjective reviews and that hardly ever worked out either.

This is the risk you took by heading over to the ASR website review. Amir is in the business of telling it like he sees it, based on concrete measurement far more than opinionated listening, and many of us are grateful for that.

In any case, here is a link for anyone who wants to read the original review.

People shouldn’t get so offended by measurements. Especially audiophiles who are supposedly more in the know. It makes one sound insecure. Without measurements there would be nothing to judge. Zealots on the other side of the fence would be well advised to take a chill pill too.

Of course nothing will change as usual. People love to rant and declare how wrong everyone else is.  That’s it in a nutshell.