I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.

Now look about the subject matter, especially the link between fractal time programming and music and sound...

It is amazing that a poster here , an alleged physicist, instead of discussing science want to put me with the audiophile subjectivist fetichist crowd, after i clearly demonstrated that i am not one...Is it because he is an objectivist zealot himself ? i dont know...

His image of a "dead horse" against my posting mean what?

Why not thanking me for an interesting post about the new meaning of "sound" in the brain and in the cosmos instead ?

If it take me minutes to undertstand the matter around Anirban Bandyopadhyay discovery, without being a physicist, why a patented physicist will be losing time in a so stupid alternative as O versus S ?

i dont understand...Enlighten me here please ...

Anyway look at the image here called " the last machine of mankind"...Where Non Turing programming is resumed in one image...

 

What is a "sound" now ? Think about that? What is music? No not only a vibration sorry, a time fractal crystal, not a spatial fractal, a time-like one...Remember we called music a sound who convey a MEANING for the ears/brain/body...

If you need a clue Anirban Bandyopadhyay articles will give you the story...

His work encompassed Karl Friston work, the last time i was amazed so much by a scientific research theory was years ago...

My job was teaching students how to read books by the way...Yes we must learn how to read like we must learn how to listen sound in a room...

My first rule teaching reading was to read a book about any field and another book about any other field and discover the relation between the two... What is the relation between prime numbers and music: read Alain Connes and Anirban Bandyopadhyay in the same day...

Ok i feel lonely since i retired , i miss the students...

None of the students i know will oppose so narrowingly, O and S , to understand sound experience...None....I dont speak with fetichist and with zealots...

I prefer to think....

And instead of argument i dont post like people on facebook a cartoon....

https://asynsis.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/amsterdam-16th-jan-lecture-debate1.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

I cannot resist to post this very deep and beautiful sentence:

 

«The topology of silence holds the actual information of biology and also in every complex system integrating the information of the universe.»

it is in the article i posted above...If you want to understand this sentence read the article...

A clue:

«We do it every day, it was not just part of science, how? For example, somebody asks you ‘What are you doing?’, you say ‘Nothing’ (peaceful tone), you could say ‘Nothing’ (furious tone) or you could say ‘Nothing’ (dreamy tone), so N-O-T-H-I-N-G, seven ‘ticks’ are there, but you change the time gap between the letters to give a completely different kind of meaning to another path. So your information is not hidden in the ‘tick’, it is hidden in the silence.»

Amazing mind!

Link all this to the non Turing programming described in the image above....

 

By the way, only this remark hold the key to the linguistic theory about the relation between phonetic and phonology....

I am interested by the musical origin of language hypothesis...

😁😊

 

«When we say clock inside the clock inside the clock inside the clock inside the clock, then we simply say that no event in the universe could be expressed as a sequence of simple events. It’s not possible. Because they are 3D geometric shapes, events are connected one inside another topologically, connections are undefined, you cannot make an equation. So if you want to convert it into a straight line, as events happening one after another, you will not be able to do so, because you are losing the topological information of the geometric structure. This is where we actually challenge the very foundation of the information theory existing for the last century.»

 

 

«When we say clock inside the clock inside the clock inside the clock inside the clock, then we simply say that no event in the universe could be expressed as a sequence of simple events. It’s not possible. Because they are 3D geometric shapes, events are connected one inside another topologically, connections are undefined, you cannot make an equation. So if you want to convert it into a straight line, as events happening one after another, you will not be able to do so, because you are losing the topological information of the geometric structure. This is where we actually challenge the very foundation of the information theory existing for the last century.»

 

Thank God engineers are mostly using geometric shapes like triangular diode symbols, and circular summing junctions.
I pray that they continue with their craft independent of magic 🙏

 

The “beating of a dead horse”, is starting to resemble a Pegasus, or the winged horse that Rushdie mentioned in his “Satanic Versus” book.

 

Or the geometry is resembling something out of the “Three Body Problem” books, where a subatomic partial is unfolded in dimensionality.

 

They sound great in literary prose…

No Pegasus. Would you settle for a unicorn?

😁😉😊

I like the artistic variation anbd esthetic aspect of this one image of beating a horse compared to the other one...

it is appreciated...

But i am afraid that your brain slowly miss this paradigm shift which is why i post it...

These artcles are not related for sure to this narrow and useless debate about O and S....

Try to work your brain through you will thank me...

Or the geometry is resembling something out of the “Three Body Problem” books, where a subatomic partial is unfolded in dimensionality.

 

They sound great in literary prose…

By the the way, no this has nothing to do with Poincaré problem...

begin with microtubules reading and Non Turing programing....

Thank God engineers are mostly using geometric shapes like triangular diode symbols, and circular summing junctions.
I pray that they continue with their craft independent of magic 🙏

And No Alain Connes and Fractal time crystals has nothing to do with audio engineering ...

They are related to the very idea of what we call "sound" and music through frequencies and clock which are at the base of this author idea...

IT is really an earthquake paradigm change on brain reasearch... It will illuminate even hearing... I am interested by hearing theory...

It is also the first demonstration in 2014 by the writer of the book that Penrose-Hamerof hypothesis of the orchestrated quantum model maybe right if the microtubules exhibit non algorythmic and non Turing behaviour which the writer interpret as a new fractal time "computing" with simple geometrical form instead of bits and Q-bits...

it boggle the mind..

If you read his book and curriculum this guy is no joke...

The reason why he is not well known is simple:

All brain research is on a dead road if he is right.... Billions of dollars are at stake right now...

If he is right the only comparison between this guy genius and another moment in past history will be the beginning of physical modern science with Galileo ... Now the basic parameter will be no longer spatial but fractal time-like...

The definition of time will change completely...

It is so extraordinary than my head turn....

To a beginning of understanding about time no books will beat Chandra Kant Raju... His two books are the deal....After that we move in a more revolutionizing new mathematical description of time which is no more only with functionnal differential calculus in the Raju description but with non commutative geometry beyond even the mathematics of the Indian genius with Alain Connes deep work in nunber theory and the quantum algebra...

With Connes idea the brain scientist Indian work is illuminated...behind all the clocks fractals expresion there is a source of variation and change more deeper than time itself...

Here Connes and Penrose cosmology meet one another...

Ok i will not add anything to this my job is done for information transmission of this great news here...

😊

 

 

My main interest is how do we hear  and tune in and interpret sound with this spiral-like and non linear structure of the cochlea, my Ariane thread is the non commutativity of the tone scale ...What is music?

A richer information phenomenon for  the body/brain than anything we ever think of...

My deeperst respects to all...