What are we objectivists missing?


I have been following (with much amusement) various threads about cables and tweaks where some claim "game changing improvements" and other claim "no difference".  My take is that if you can hear a difference, there must be some difference.  If a device or cable or whatever measures exactly the same it should sound exactly the same.  So what are your opinions on what those differences might be and what are we NOT measuring that would define those differences?

jtucker

what are we NOT measuring that would define those differences?

This is a very hard question, as it refers to unknowns.

There are many sensed qualities for which there is no quantifiable, measure-able correlate.

We are relying on both neural psychology, engineering, and psychoacoustics to collaboratively establish how "measurement X" corresponds to "sensation Y."

objectivists lack a good bottle of cognac ... and the world will sparkle with colors

@bruce19 

So the problem here for those trained in science is that we have learned early on that our senses cannot perceive things that are there and conversely can also perceive things that are not there.

SCIENTISM IS NOT SCIENCE. you are full of contradictions. On one hand you distrust the senses. Yet you trust the science and the scientific machinery that was developed and  brought forth by man's human senses

 

 

You need both objective to get a base to replicate or advance from and subjective to tell if it's enjoyable since that can not be measured. Nearly all audio products built by subjectivists have parts or materials that were carefully measured and meet specifications based on advanced objective measurements. All objective products meant for humanity’s replication of art must work, feel, sound, or look good to humans and that’s all subjective.