DAC diminishing returns


Looking for some experienced input on the diminishing return as you go up the the DAC ladder. I mostly stream music and occasionally listen to CDs.  Currently, I’m using a Schiit Bifrost Multibit DAC.  It’s connected to my Naim Nait 5Si and that drives Zu Omen ii speakers. In my limited experience, I have not heard any substantial differences when changing DACs.  I’m considering a Denafrips Pontus DAC.  Does the significantly higher cost justify what might be a marginal increase in sound quality?  Is buying a more expensive DAC for better sound just splitting hairs, and making you feel better about your system?  Are different DACs just different coloration of the sound?

I don’t want to be duped into buying something I don’t really need. Thanks.

dsfreeh

i never felt there is a tradeoff between detail retrieval and soundstaging... in fact in my experience, excellent detail retrieval enables excellent imaging and soundstaging...

@bassdude actually if I’m not mistaking Schiit will charge you a 15% restocking fee upon return. So you”re down around $330 (provided it retails for $2200) plus the return shipping charges which could round it up to around $400 all in and turn it into  a pretty Schitty deal if you ask me. I’d buy used or from a dealer that allows a return for a full refund in the event you don’t like it. Since it’s direct sale only you’re Schiit out o’ luck
 

@jjss49 +1

@jjss49 +1

I agree… typically high detail = better soundstaging. To me the real trick… and magic of a great system is to get really natural / musical sound and a great sound stage / imaging without being overwhelmed (disproportionately forward) with details. Often this is where tubes excel.

@jjss49  Conditionally agree.

 

 

There has been fine line between neutrality and the analytical in my setup. I've been doing a lot of streaming setup experimentation over the years, there has been the rare case when lowered noise floor has resulted in too finely etched sound stage and imaging, so I can see the case for higher resolution resulting in diminished soundstaging.  Still, I'd have to say higher resolving setup nearly always results in better soundstaging. I consider improved sound stage and imaging as inherently allied to increased resolution. My theory on diminished soundstaging resulting from lower noise floor is due to mismatched clocks in various streaming devices.

@electroslacker ...there’s a DAC3 but even they feel that’s getting into diminishing returns...

 

It can be. Demos at home in your system helps a lot to decide. Had a very nice DAC3B here for several weeks. Great on paper. Returned it. Ended up with a different R2R Ladder chip DAC at less cost, a unit with worse specs yet it simply sounded more engaging and more musical in my system. Let your ears be the guide for your system and setup.