Hi sns: Your posts are always helpful to me. In regards to ROON, when you say "turn off all DSP" do you mean set everything to the default settings? Jeff
Roon Core Server Player
I'm thinking about upgrading from my Innuos Zen MkIII. Although there's been a lot written here about what sounds best, I've not seen a discussion of what higher end server/streamer/renderer will work properly as a Roon Core as well as a Roon Endpoint. The Roon Labs website is terrible at helping you find an answer to that question.
I'm looking in the $4k - $8k range and am considering the Innuos Zenith MkIII, the Auralic Aries, 432 EVO Aeon, etc. But I'd prefer to have the Roon Core and Roon Endpoint in the same box.
Roon is somewhat glitchy on the Innuos, but running the Innuos in Roon "Experimental Mode" clearly gives me better SQ than Innuos Sense, their proprietary software. The Auralic reportedly sounds better than the Zenith but it doesn't look like it can be a Roon Core. There's little written about the 432 EVO. Don't want to spend the money for a Grimm.
Anyone know of a brand that has great SQ (in that price range) and runs as both Roon Core and Endpoint?
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Yes this is great discussion thanks everyone! As I try to improve my digital, I come across this dilemma: HIgh end Server Streamers do just that. Serve and Stream. Even getting clarity on nomenclature is tricky as different manufacturers use different terms. So many of the new high end devices would replace my Nucleus AND Stream (output usb audio in my world). I seem to want to keep my Nucleus+ in my computer room and with that on the network, use my Auralic Aries G2.1 Streamer in my audio room. Upgrading my power supply (mod) of the Aries should put it up there...(Look at the new Innuos Statement and the Sean Jacobs power supply option!). Ayway, thoughts on keeping the Music Server separate from the Streamer? I do feel more flexibility with this setup. I use USB into my Tambaqui. |
@fastfreight Highest quality streaming is possible with both integrated server/streamer and discreet. Quality of the usb rendering important here. very few integrated server/streamers do this, meaning high dollar expenditure here. Or you can spend less on server, put that money into separate streamer. Depending on components chosen financial outlay may be a wash. Keeping them separate does give one more options, along with more complexity.
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This has been an educational journey! With the investment of about $500 and 8 hours of my life, I built a fanless NUC 10 i3 in an Akasa case (a huge heat sink,) installed Roon ROCK Core software and hooked up my ripped CD library (from the Innuos Zen MkIII server) in a 1TB SSD attached to the NUC. (No upscale power supply or network cables.) (It only took 8 hours because of a couple 3-hour rabbit chases due to lack of specificity in Roon's instructions in places.) Then I switched the Zen into Player (only) mode and WOW! Best SQ I have ever had in my system by a wide margin. Even my wife noticed. The change I noticed first was the amount of "air" and detail in tracks I had listened to dozens of times, closely followed by more accurate tone in instruments and vocals. It's like I could hear the boundaries of the room where the recording was made. The decay of cymbals lingered much longer. A tenor sax really sounded like a tenor sax. This was the type of improvement I was expecting from moving up to a better server streamer. I also tried hooking the NUC via USB (Audioquest Diamond) directly to my Yggy DAC. That was also better than my original arrangement but it didn't have the magic of having the Zen player in the loop. (That could be due to the generic power supply on the NUC.) @sns is also absolutely correct that the very best SQ comes with turning off the (very handy) volume control, volume leveling, DSP EQ etc., no matter which configuration you run. I had not previously discovered that. Now I have to get used to walking over to my 300B integrated tube amp a lot more frequently to adjust the volume! I still plan to upgrade the server/streamer, but will probably stick with that magical NUC running Roon ROCK on my network. I should have the new server streamers in to to compare in another month.
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