@juanmanuelfangioii My takeaway from lalitk’ post was that he was simply suggesting that holmz experience with vinyl was in reality no less involved than what he and others have stated about their digital setups
Anyone else feel like it’s the Wild Wild West?
I’ve been following the streaming threads here for a while now, and I find it both exhilarating and intimidating. I mean, we all know everything in high-end audio matters to some degree or another, right (Ok, maybe except for the flat earth contingent)? From what I’m reading and from my own experience the process of optimizing steaming has near unlimited potential, and some even say it rivals or even surpasses vinyl if taken to the max. Cables, routers, optical, filters, extenders, power supplies, switches, etc., they all seem to make a significant difference despite the naysayers who say bits are just bits. I’m all in on this steaming renaissance, but most of the jewels of useful info are buried in other posts, so I’d like to have this be a consolidator post of your best streaming experiences and recommendations for others who could benefit greatly from your hard-won victories and maybe save a lot of people the agony you went through to get to streaming nirvana. So have at it — let’s empower this community in this noble task and help everyone realize the amazing potential of this magic gift to audiophiles. What say you?
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Sure vinyl is simple but good to great vinyl requires a lot of parts too and that isn’t inexpensive. No it ain’t! We all know that list and what the ensuring costs are.(And what’s Beethoven’s fifth with out the ticks and pops?) Great digital can be had “reasonably.” For $2200 on up you can get a used Lumin T2 or Mytek Brooklyn Bridge Network both with very good inboard DAC’s and the ability to connect directly to an amp with no pre amp needed. Compared to a vinyl rig or upper CD/SCAD this is far far cheaper. To tweak it up, linear power supplies and ethernet filleting can be used (and Bam!) but this is assuming all the rest such as your room, amp and pre or integrated, connects, power cleaned, speakers and the whole schmear is stellar. Digital steaming equaling vinyl costs less too. And yes Virginia, CD’s are digital just delivered on a player. Vinyl does give one more exercise as you have to get off your duff a lot more. There are also some all in one solutions like the Naim Uniti boxes that are good. @ghdprentice Yes Digital into tubes. Right on brother! It’s all about choices!
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We’re parting, you go your way I’ll go mine It’s best that we do Here’s a kiss I hope that this brings lots of luck to you Makes no difference how I carry on Remember, please don’t talk about me Please don’t talk about me Please don’t talk about me when I’m gone
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@lalitk Point taken. Unfortunately budget largely dictated my choice, and I assumed a company the size of iFi would have at least some form of phone support. I’ll definitely not make that painful mistake again. Were I doing it over I probably would’ve bought a used Innuos Mini Mk3 and added their upgraded power supply later, and I would’ve had a server and been able to ditch my CD transport altogether as a bonus. Live and learn I guess. My takeaway — some things are just worth paying for. |
You completely missed the point of my post. I have no qualms about how anyone choose to spend their money or their personal preferences / priorities for vinyl or digital. Peace! @facten - Thank you! |
@soix There is rep from Ifi who regularly contributes on headfi forum. I'd PM him at that forum, goes under moniker, IFIAudio.
I'd add vinyl is pretty much on par with streaming for complications or lack thereof. Streaming is different in that far more experimentation taking place at present, less mature technology.
Very astute observation by @blisshifi per ubs preferable when dac clock superior, aes, coax if streamer/server superior clock. I'm expecting to explore this very thing with upcoming server/streamer audtions/purchases. Custom server in midst of being built and an off the shelf server will both have great adaptability in allowing all the above comparisons and additionally I2S, also ability for Roon and/or proprietary music software/player. |
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