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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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juanmanuelfangioii
958 posts
 

@nonoise very good article and I am also intrigued by the Soulnote product. Very relatable article, thank you for posting the link.

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henry53
280 posts
 

"If you can’t measure it then it’s placebo effect". I have an opinion, you have an opinion, can we measure these opinions, yes, are they the same, no. You can measure everything, doesn't mean we all like the same result.

td_dayton
320 posts
 

@nonoise superb read, appreciate you posting that 

decooney
2,057 posts
 

Interesting. From the SOULNOTE site, a little more on their philosophy.  Some of them apparently came from the original Marantz crew, quote -

"Soulnote believes dynamic performance keeping accuracy of the original waveform on the time axis as the most important for music playback, which is, however, still unmeasurable by any of the conventional methods. At Soulnote, only listening dominates the determination and improvement of circuit, selection of parts and mechanical construction. This approach is a kind of antithesis against the supremacy of static performance."

 

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nonoise
10,887 posts
 

Hey guys,

I'm just happy I came across that article demonstrating the fallacy of believing static measurements is all there is to know, and needed. Kind of reminds me of when Apple came out with those "moving" still images taken on an iPhone. When you took a photo, it was actually a very short video and when viewed, gave life to that photo that it never really could capture as a still image.

All the best,
Nonoise

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