REL speakon connection to amp vs speakers


I will be connecting 2 T/9x's to my system (B&W 805 D4) driven by a NAD M33. I am wondering if there is any audible difference between connecting them to the amp or to the speakers directly and am guessing somebody here has tried it.

 

I only use the system for music and I listen relatively quietly, the "room" is 16 by 16 but open concept so the total space is 16 by 50.

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OP, sorry for going off topic.

@ross6860 Thanks for the clarification - there is no mention of this in the manual but it makes sense (it’s the same). Connecting to the speakers could be more convenient and maybe help reducing hum (if any) by reducing the length of the supplied cables - which are 60Hz antennas. It would not work for me as I’m using my mains for both stereo and a/v (by manually switching speaker cables).

@tony1954 I think we are both saying the same thing, or close. refer to page 15 in the manual. The black wire in the speakon cable is a ground and referred to as negative and ground in the manual. Differential and Class D amps use the same method.

My REL dealer said I should "float the ground" if there was a hum in my system, which there was (Initially the amp was a Line Magnetic, no pre or sub-outs, not differential). Floating the ground/black wire helped but trimming the 30ft cables also helped a lot but didn’t cure the issue 100% in one of the RELs. Re-configuring the red and yellow connections in the speakon connector itself eliminated the hum completely (I called REL and talked to Frank at Signal Cable who makes the speakon subwoofer cables and both agreed it was safe to try prior to doing this).

For stereo set up, the manual is actually pretty poorly written. p18 1.a refers you back to pages 11 & 12 where there is nothing mentioned about stereo set up.

In fact stereo set up is really the same as the mono-block instructions on page 16 except L & R terminals are on the same amp, and again, in my case floating the ground/black wire worked best.

I did experience the high gain issue mentioned on p16 btw.

When I bought the Raven amp, I discussed wiring the subs with Raven and James strongly recommended using the RCA connections. I again called REL to get their opinion and they said use whatever method sounds best.

*To correct my poor grammar, Frank at Signal Cables makes an aftermarket version of the REL speakon cables, he does not make the cable supplied by REL.

"For stereo set up, the manual is actually pretty poorly written. p18 1.a refers you back to pages 11 & 12 where there is nothing mentioned about stereo set up."

Agreed.

I have tried it both ways, connected to the the amp outputs and the RCA out from my preamp going to my S812. I do prefer the RCA out to sub, it just seems a bit more dynamic and deeper bass. It's a much easier hookup also, especially if you are using mono blocs amps.  I had to make a extention cable when I rolled out my monos. Besides, I don't really want the sub to have the flavor of the main amp, I prefer it having the flavor closest to the source. 

@macg19 you are right and Franks version is awesome.

Frank at Signal Cables makes an aftermarket version of the REL speakon cables, he does not make the cable supplied by REL.