Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

@jbhiller I agree with you. It occurred to me that the speaker that Amir used to listen to the little Luxman amp was entirely inappropriate as well. This reminds me of the poor review that Jason Victor Serinus wrote of the Jadis JA200mk2 amps for Stereophile, wherein he mismatched the amps with his virtually impossible to drive Wilson Alexia’s! Instead of blaming a mismatch of gear, which frankly was obvious to anyone with any experience in this hobby, he places blame on the amp/victim.

Ever since this review, I read JVS’s reviews with a grain of salt and suspect he really is somewhat unqualified to be in his position.

When Amir proposes his set of measures, basic linear and time independant measures, as falsification of marketer specs design, then i had no problem...

When he disparaged any trained listeners to be meaningless in favor of his set of measures only to be confirm by his own listenings and listenings protocols putting all experienced listeners in the trashbin, proposing short term blind test instead of long term listening test, but more than that ignoring psycho-acoustic basic science about non linear and time dependant Ears/brain decoding and pushing his simplistic electrical sets of measures over the head of anyone, this is not even technology over science it is worst, it is ideologically motivated stances...I will not speculate about his motives i dont like ad hominem attacks...

The 4 physicist i summoned he disparaged two BEFORE reading them as ignorant...Two of them are author of the papers about hearing beating the Fourier uncertainty, he never adressed these two experiments...And the last one Hans Van Maanen, he disparaged him on the spot, but not only is a working physicist but he design amplifiers and speaker which are  based on his studies of the non linear working in the time dependant dimension of the hears/brain... This dude is not phony, it is simple to read his papers...He know much more about audio than Amir who play with technological and computer tools but did not created his own components design as Van Maanen around psycho-acoustic fundamental facts in hearing theory...

By the way Van Maanen asked and praised long term trained listeners to improve audio design, especially musicians, acoustician and trained music lovers ... He did not favor blind test as a cure for all needs which are always anyway used for very limited and special utility in a narrow phase of the design window or for marketer fun and publicity ... An amplifier is not a drug , we dont test it the same way with blind guinea pigs with their short memory window...

And as @mahgister as adroitly pointed out, is this science? The assumption calls into question the use of label "science review".

@laoman 

It took me 2 minutes to find the following quotes:

However, the vast majority of DACs will sound the same.

[...]

So what is it Amir? There are 2 possibilities
1) You are not telling the truth or
2) You have no idea what your supporters post on your forum.

It is option 3:  you have forgotten what you claimed and what I objected to.  Here it is again

. What I find absurd is to say that equipment that measures the same sounds the same. So many on Amir's site have said this."

Nothing you quoted says those DACs measure the same. Indeed no two audio products measure the same!  There are always differences.  The question then becomes matter of audibility.  On ASR people have varying views on that point.  Most vocal members believe after certain level of performance, transparency is achieved so better measurements while nice and welcome, won't improve the sound of the audio product.

This is the third time I have corrected some factual statement you made that was completely wrong.  Please don't keep making stuff like this.  You are doing disservice to your fellow audiophiles who subscribe to audio science/engineering.

@mahgister

When he disparaged any trained listeners to be meaningless in favor of his set of measures only to be confirm by his own listenings and listenings protocols putting all experienced listeners in the trashbin,....

Nothing remotely like this was stated. I have said the opposite and will say it again: properly run listening test is superior to measurements.

And no, what I say is not my views. It is the consensus view of audio science. That a listening test must be controlled to have value. Otherwise it is just noise. BTW, you don’t get to self-claim to be trained. As I showed earlier, audio reviewers who I am sure you would claim to be trained, can’t tell the performance of a speaker reliability in blind tests!

Watch this video I did on what a proper training means:

https://youtu.be/0KX2yk-9ygk

The rest of your posts I am afraid are too verbose for me to read and respond do. So please don’t take lack of response as agreement with anything you are posting. or refusing to answer. I just can’t keep up with you. :)

@amir_asr ...Nothing remotely like this was stated. I have said the opposite and will say it again: properly run listening test is superior to measurements.

Amir, can you share what constitutes a "properly run listening test" from your perspective? What characteristics are you listening for, specifically?