Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

Exactly. I believed something "told" once. Thought I’d put it to the test myself. It was about a really great measuring DAC on said forum. All looked good on measurements and graphs. I took the plunge, went out and bought it with intent it would be a long term keeper DAC. Played it for just under two weeks. Unfortunately, ended up sending it back for a full refund and kept a different unit that measured worse. 

Sad as if you had spent a modicum of effort performing a blind test, you would have arrived at a very different conclusion.  But no, you wanted to involve your eyes and ignore elasticity of your brain and its poor recall memory.

Reminds me of someone who sent me a Schiit Yggdrasil $2,500 DAC.   He told me it sounded much better than a well measuring Topping DAC.  I asked him how he tested.  He gave me his tracks and said he used Stax headphones which I also had.  

I went to setup an AB test and it was clear that levels were not matched between the two.  I matched them and then performed a blind test.  With normal volume, there was no difference whatsoever between the Topping and Schiit Yggdrasil.  Again I replicated his entire setup.  And this was the conclusion.

The problem continues to be that people believe in random testing of the gear where many factors are involved beyond the fidelity of the two products.  And then complain when their observations don't match science and engineering.  Well, you can't mix non-science and science.  

So tell your stories but not to me please.  Come back when you can at least be bothered to do an AB test without your eyes involved.

@amir_asr Well, you can’t mix non-science and science.

So tell your stories but not to me please. Come back when you can at least be bothered to do an AB test without your eyes involved.

 

Yes we can. And, there it is for all to see. My goal was to further expose more of your self-inflicted BS to everyone here. Wishing you best of luck on the future! 

Wire directionality! Now we’re talking! Measure that!🙃 Truly a game changer.  Does a crystal ball help? 

Years back, when Halcro first came to market, one of their claims to fame was that they had amps that were exhibiting such amazing measurements that they were ground breaking. No other manufacturer could deliver a product with the type of measurements that these amps delivered. Problem was that as soon as any reviewer with half a decent ear listened to them, they were pretty much dismissed as not good sounding at all!( even though JA and others did measure them and were astounded by what they found, which conformed to Halcro's marketing). This ultimately hurt their sales, but i suspect they did sell a few to the ’objectivists’ out there....who then promptly tried to unload them onto the secondary market...with minimal success.

I wonder if all of the Halcro adherents would easily pick out their favorite amp in a ’blind test’...or whether they would all opt for a poor measuring single ended tube amp, and question whey their measurements were deceiving them??

My ears, my preference, is #1. Summary, what measured better did not sound better. 

Incredible that people with eyes wide open continue to claim that they only used their ears. No matter how much you show them that such testing produces completely wrong results, they cant even be bothered to state what they really did.  "My ears."  No, it was not your ears.  It was your ears, eyes and a brain that loves to please you by telling that higher priced items must sound better.

I know you disagree.  To do so, you need to come back with an ears only test.  Why is it so difficult to accept when all you talk about is "trust your ears?"  How come you must see what you are testing?  How come you don't realize that if levels are different, preference shifts just because of that?