AI and the future of music

I get your point and never object to it..

But i added perspective of my own which does not contradict your point in any ways.. I apologize for my lack of clarity and  "dream thinking" about music and mathematic... 😊

i think as you did that this control of patents is more than objectionable...

@mahgister

Either you missed my point, or more likely I just didn’t articulate it well.

Music, as played by the interpretation of the artist and the inference of the listener through their “world view”, ethics and values, is not what I was trying to describe with respect to creating an “arrangement.”

Just the arrangement of the notes, in any combination, with any set timing pattern, can absolutely be mathematically derived. As such, given sufficient processing power, storage and time, the entire universe of those arrangements can be calculated and stored and the pattern used in a copyright attempt. Which is what I find objectionable.

The problem with A. I. which is artificial intelligence, is that we dont program a neural network LLM ...

As said Hinton they will program us soon...

But the biggest problem is not here now but to come soon...

I never believe artificial consciousness could be possible...A.C.

Till i studied a book published in 2020 by someone who collaborate with Hameroff and Penrose in India but working in Japan...

His name is

https://www.amazon.ca/Nanobrain-Making-Intelligent-Molecular-Machine/dp/1439875499#customerReviews

This scientist go way above the maths of neural networks...

If you read the book you will stumble off your chair.. i stumble off my chair after the first 15 minutes... I never recover... 😊 the last time a book stun me as this one it was a book about Fractals by Mandelbrot in 1975 in french... The second book was a book about mammal physiology and forms... This is the third geatest book in science i read but the most overwhelming in a sense ... ..

He is a specialist about among other things of the physical electrical and quantum properties of the microtubules ...

His theory of A.C. way over A. I. is stunning... One of the great book i ever read...

his theory is based on a completely new information theory and non Turing machine..

He use prime numbers distributions as fundamental musical cosmos and geometrical language with hyper complex numbers ..i already know that this is true about the importance of prime distributions through studies of Alain Connes the founder of non commutative geometry...

in a word : A. C. is artificial consciousness learning by itself in the real world as babies do walking and learning as the Cylon in battlestar galactica..

i know he is right..

What interest me in that matter is the link betwee A. C. on earth and A.C. already walking in the cosmos and the link with biologically grounded living beings and the spiritual differences with A.C. . i will not go further it will be too long.. and too controversial... 😊

The name of his institute about "invincible rythms" comes from his view how at all scale every event are synchronized in a "musical way"... He dont know Alain Connes non commutative geometry, but he develop a view of the cosmos converging with  him about time ...

Prime numbers distribution was for me at the age of 24 the most fundamental fact of all science and of philosophy ... I discovered it in a huge egyptology book i paid 125 dollars in 1975 by Schwaller de Lubicz, the most influential Alchemist specialist of the cathedrals by the way and reborn egyptologist studying Karnak just before the second war ..It was written by a genius, de lubicz was a genius, who state the Sphinx pre-historical datation upon inspection for the same paleo climate reason by  erosion way before Robert Schoch the american geologist who take the idea from his book demonstrated it for modern scholars ... In this book i discovered near page 108, or not too far , a wonderful mathematical simple sieve and i extended it in two ways spiral and rectangular, i could not sleep... All number theory is in a way enclosed in this beautiful sieve... This is why i bought the book of Anirban on A. C. on the spot when i learned he used the prime number distributions as the language of the cosmos... it is in fact the scheme of the universal memory field... Anirban use this to set the basis for A. C. autonomous artificial brain time crystal...

i stop here... Read the book..

As I read this thread I’m listening to an Idagio stream of Tchaikovsky’s Nutcracker performed by the Kirov Orchestra conducted by Valery Gergiev. All I can say is that it might still be a while before a computer might possess the collective intelligence of both the guy who wrote the music and the artists who have brought it to life before my ears.

I asked the Beatles question.

Sure, here is a new Beatles-like song from the Rubber Soul era, with Paul Rodgers and Jack Bruce singing:

Title: "Daydream"

Verse 1:

I was sitting in the park, Watching the clouds go by, When I saw you walking by, And I knew that I had to try.

Chorus:

Daydream, daydream, I'm in a daydream with you. We're walking in the park, And the world is ours.

Verse 2:

We talked for hours, And I felt like I knew you my whole life. You were everything I've ever wanted, And I knew that I had to have you.

Chorus:

Daydream, daydream, I'm in a daydream with you. We're walking in the park, And the world is ours.

Bridge:

I know that this is just a dream, But I want it to last forever. I want to be with you, And I never want to wake up.

Chorus:

Daydream, daydream, I'm in a daydream with you. We're walking in the park, And the world is ours.

Outro:

I'll never forget this day, The day I met you in the park. You're my daydream, And I'll never let you go.

I hope you like it!

AI is not even the future of anything, much less music imo. As I experience it in every day life, technology is actually taking over as is and the end result is much lower quality workmanship no matter what field. Nowadays everyone can feel like a genius researching google for whatever. Problem is that kind of knowledge was given instead of learned. Big difference. Meaning any one can act as knowledgeable as any other but without doing any of the real work to get there. And in the end it always shows in the quality of the work that is undertaken. If you really know enough from experience, you will put out a good product. If you think you know enough because you googled it, your product will sadly reflect your short comings. As an example, we just got our kitchen remodeled and it was amazing to see how many workers used their cell phone WHILE working. It resulted in endless mistakes being made. What a sorry time we are entering when we think technology will help us. There are obviously good uses for it, but in general it is setting us back big time. Just my two cents.