Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?
It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.” And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything? For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think.
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is.
All the best, |
@mitch2 I have not objected to the science on ASR. It's sound and I find no issue with it. What I take issue with is the interpolation of said aforementioned data as gospel and all that really matters when determining a quality component. It would be like doing a psychological study of medication on the body. Measuring the physical effects and not asking the participants what their experience was like. Or telling people to go buy a Tesla model 3 because it outperforms or matches another car like the m5 in performance and technical specs. The driving experience will be different and just because something is good on paper doesnt mean it translates. @prof Show me where you object to anything Amir has said? All I see is soft pedaling and brown nosing. The snake oil discussion I linked to, in it someone directed peoples attention to a 600 thousand dollar Magico speaker saying it was basically snake oil. Some corrected him, but this is very common. There is another discussion on ASR just about extreme snake oil and someone linked to a million dollar system. More often than not, high prices are synonymous with bad. How can someone afford it? The blame and shame shift to anyone who would be dumb enough to buy such a product. All of this without ever having heard it, and wait for it, or testing it scientifically or otherwise. I agree there is a lot of pseudo science out there, and I applaud ASR for helping people sort out what is bogus and what is real. However when that tips the scale where Amir is tipping it, it becomes just as bad as the people who say buy my crystal cable holders to improve your sound. Tossing out the experience of audio, which is what many people want is not productive. Ive had studio engineers in my space, and been to many production facilities. All recommended bass traps as standard basic treatment as most rooms encounter bass bumps. Cardioid and dutch and dutch use their physical designs to avoid room problems and then further smooth it out with eq. From the dutch and dutch guide: "These room resonances can be attenuated by means of acoustical treatment in the form of bass traps. With the 8c, one also has the possibility to do a low-frequency equalization in the 8c to compensate for the effect of the room resonances and obtain an equalized, i.e. “flatter”, low-frequency response in the listening area." They don't say you dont need bass traps. |
