Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?


It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro

1241 posts and counting on this thread. Can Amir set a new Audiogon record? He has a lot of material to work with. I am measuring this.

 

Seems so when there are so many different people who are more than willing to debate it even more.

Now back to listening to distorted tube amps, and sub-optimal measuring DAC - sounds amazing by the way! Y’all have fun now, lol. :)

@amir_asr 

"@kevn 

@amir_asr 

Amir, what of the fact that all along, you have only been measuring just the electrical half of electromagnetism. Can you explain the loss of logic in basing your entire belief system on that?

Huh?  What do you call speaker and headphone testing? Devoid of magnetism?  How do they make sound then (putting aside electrostatics and such).

Power supplies in audio gear use transformers so their magnetic properties are also encapsulated in the overall performance of a device.

The ending of that sentence is key: don't try to get ahead of the train.  As an audiophile, your only concern should be what comes out of your audio gear.  Not how some physical theory acts on the design of said equipment.  You don't listen to that phenomenon. "

 

"Power supplies in audio gear use transformers so their magnetic properties are also encapsulated in the overall performance of a device."

 

The overall measured electrical performance of the device, you mean. You're paltering again, Amir. You haven't answered the question - why have you based your entire belief system on just the electrical half of electromagnetism? The point is, you don't really know, because accurate measurement and analysis of the other profound side hasn't been invented yet.

 

It is ok, Amir, I no longer wish to help you understand what you have bureaucratically shut yourself off to. Your only contribution to your amazing world of music will be these trivial arguments and the incomplete results of electrical performance tests, years from now. It will not even matter that many audiophiles may be led down your narrow view - as evidenced by the likes of their comments, they are as perfunctory as you. The vital thing I have learned from our exchange is that you are unable to tell the difference between files of different resolution, in that listening test I referred you to. And it is not a leap of deduction to say neither do any of the others who prioritise measurements over listening ability.

How silly to attempt persuading any of you to put more effort into training your listening. I do not feel sorry for any of you, missing out on the amazing differences cables, and unmeasurable electromagnetic fields make.

Amir, I will be making a few more posts on this thread, for those who may not understand why you communicate as you do - as with listening ability, too many of us are hearing your same drum-beat of arrogance, indoctrination, and numbing dogma regarding the measurements of your limiting electrical performance tests. What we are hearing from you cannot be definitively measured either, but there is a science that has identified it.

 

You may want to have a read to understand yourself as well as you understand your half world of electrical performance tests.

 

In conclusión - kevin

 

I’m keeping tabs on products I own that he has reviewed. Chord Mojo and Fosi amp are winners. My spare older NOS mhdt dac maybe not so much but mine is SS and not tube. I had a tube mhdt also for awhile but unloaded it. Sound was nice and different but not to my liking as much. I bet it measures horribly. That’s its charm! So he hasn’t hurt my feelings too much (so far).

This thread kind of reminds me of a squash match in pro wrestling. Look it up!

Lots of resistance here though just not very effective from where I sit. 

The overall measured electrical performance of the device, you mean. You're paltering again, Amir. You haven't answered the question - why have you based your entire belief system on just the electrical half of electromagnetism? The point is, you don't really know, because accurate measurement and analysis of the other profound side hasn't been invented yet.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gNEjwvEe8HA

Your ears must have really evolved to detect magnetic field of audio gear. 

Make sure you have no jewelry on you as that could disturb the field.  When sitting in the room, align yourself with earth's magnetic force as otherwise, the two will fight and will raise the noise floor of your system. 

You may also want to orient your speaker backward as to be closer to the driver magnet.  That will make them sound louder then because your ears will be closer.  Experiment with the speakers on the side.  That would make it field more parallel to the magnetic axis of your body.

I am told human body can generate a magnetic field.  In that regard, when listening with others, you may want to experiment with having them lay down while you are sitting up.  Again, that works on magnetic orthogonality principle which can remove the veil from your system, assuming of course that it is high enough resolution (magnetically speaking).

It will not even matter that many audiophiles may be led down your narrow view - as evidenced by the likes of their comments, they are as perfunctory as you.

How do you know that?  Have you been to an audiologist and have them measure your ability to detect magnetic field?  Many of the ASR members have and as a class, they are far superior to folks on other forums. 

Please don't confuse this with "magnetic personality."  That is a different thing.  Oh wait... maybe it is one in the same!

What we are hearing from you cannot be definitively measured either, but there is a science that has identified it.

How do you know?  Maybe all you need is a compass!