A Story about a Defective Signature Platinum


Last week I was listening to music at a healthy volume while sitting at my computer. I have an auto lifter (Little Fwend) and after the arm lifted I noticed a static noise with occasional popping coming out of the left channel about 40 dB down. At first I thought it was a bad tube but it disappeared when I turned the volume down. It is in front of the Preamp. None of the other sources had the noise. Swapping tonearm cables did not seem to change the sound but then I noticed that the sound was also in the right channel just farther down. Disconnecting the tonearm stopped the noise. I change over to an MC Diamond, no noise. Same with the Atlas, no noise. Swapped back to the MSL, noise is back.

The cartridge is exactly one year old but it rotates with two other cartridges and might have 75 hours on it. I called the dealer who told me to contact MoFi distribution, the US agent for MSL. Turns out the cartridge only has a 90 day warranty and I was told I would have to send it in for a rebuild for $6000! Can't they just fix the problem for maybe $500, No. Can't I just send it in for evaluation?  The stylus and cantilever are brand new. No, a rebuild is the only option and you have to do that through the dealer, click!  Most very expensive cartridges have a 2 year warranty on them not to mention that most companies would cover such a defect even off warranty as in the absence of physical damage it is obviously a manufacturing defect, a bad solder joint or maybe just two wires rubbing together. This is very disappointing and as far as customer service goes Home Depot is better than MoFi, Sears is better than MoFi! MoFI is right up there with Anthem Blue Cross! The service rep could have offered to look into it. Maybe communicate with MSL and get their opinion. I am sure if MSL knew about it they would gladly fix it and actually be embarrassed. The Japanese are like that. There is no way I can find to get directly in touch with MSL.   

$6000 is not an option. I am not going to throw good money after bad. I am also not going to off a defective cartridge on someone else. I am going to take the cartridge apart and reflow the solder joints and make sure the wires are separated. If that doesn't fix it, it goes in the trash.

Mistakes and defects happen, it is what you do about them that counts. MoFi failed dismally in this regard. MSL makes a fine cartridge but I would only get another one if they changed agents and increased their warranty. Obviously, I will avoid buying any other MoFi products myself and warn others about their customer service. I have no further use for the dealer who did nothing to help. I have had superb service from Musical Surroundings, Soundsmith, B+H Photo and the Cable Company. All handled issues with ease. Has anyone else had trouble with MoFi? What companies have provided you with excellent service when the sh-t hit the fan?

 

 

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OP… mister handyman,

 

You are fortunate then that you can competently fiddle with tt’s. One advantage I would have in this situation would be I would only need to call up my dealer and he would fix the issue at no cost or effort on my part..

That's a lot of companies to have had the opportunity to fix a problem for you! You must be awfully unlucky. 

@gregdude 

No, I buy too much stuff and I am 70 years old giving me a lot of time to buy too much stuff. 

@rauliruegas 

I have not heard the MSL mistrack at 2 gram VTF. I have not run it on a test record yet either. I will when I get it set up again and let you know.

That is a truly awful story. Sympathy.

Like MSL apparently, Koetsu likes to hide. Maybe a cultural thing - so what? The effects are the same as ill will. That was part of my decision to buy more locally this time, and Grado is mightily accessible and mightily good to deal with. Great product, too.

That’s an awful story. Very sorry to hear this happen to you.

Shame on MoFi! This makes a case that the traditional distributor / dealer model for cartridges is broken. One of the worst "middle man" arrangements in this hobby. Huge (multi -$K) markups simply for the privilege of routing an 8 ounce package to a buyer, with NO support & service heroics? No thanks. Completely needless. Of course your complaint against MoFi is not isolated -- it makes me sad they’ve gained such a prominent role in our hobby. I certainly avoid them for large purchases, and try to avoid them on small stuff too. Anyways, the dealer and manufacturer shouldn’t totally be off the hook here, either.

I agree with others -- don’t toss the cart out. It still has value. Besides the usual SoundSmith and VAS suspects, there are also other talented cartridge rebuilders. Take some time, look around. A good one should be proud of showing off their work. Ana Mighty Sound (France), Delta667 (Russian guy on the vinlyengine forums, though you can’t get to him these days), and Sửa Kim Than Cartridges (Vietnam, found him on Facebook) have all shown very impressive work IMO.

Like MSL apparently, Koetsu likes to hide. Maybe a cultural thing - so what? The effects are the same as ill will. That was part of my decision to buy more locally this time, and Grado is mightily accessible and mightily good to deal with. Great product, too.

I haven’t dipped into Grado cartridges yet, but what I have seen from them (I started in headphones), I have 100% confidence they would make things right in the situation OP describes.

One more anecdote. I have a local friend who made a HUGE stretch purchase for a brand new Ortofon Jubilee MC while we has working & still going through college. This was ~1- years ago. He wore a fuzzy sweater one winter day, and well wouldn’t you know it -- snagged the stylus right off. Almost in tears, he was ready to write it off as a complete loss. At our dealer’s insistence (sadly this dealer is no longer in the business - I miss him) he sent it back to Ortofon to "look over" and see what they could do (note: this was before Ortofon offered rebuild services). A few/several months later (Euros love their vacations haha) he got back a BRAND NEW Jubilee MC, no charge. Ortofon looked over the cartridge, and determined that the glue had failed before the cantilever, which is not how they’d intended it to fail. Or maybe they just decided to be nice and made up that bit about the failure mode :) So they replaced it under warranty! Shout out to Ortofon and Louis on that one.