If you want lame advice DON'T do this!

@kota1

I do not have a dedicated room -- my system’s in our living room. Nor did I enter this hobby in possession of an engineering mind-set. I’m a creative person/music lover who’s discovered my listening experience is enhanced by a nice system (the best sounding I’m capable of assembling within my budgetary restrictions). I’ve done this through a combination of reading/watching reviews, asking tor advice here and most of all -- seeking to please my own ears through demoing gear in my room.

It’s entirely possible that I’ve frustrated some members in the past when soliciting advice. There have been points in my journey when I’ve felt not only very confused but downright foolish. Nevertheless, over the past 15 years or so, my system has improved enormously and it would be absurd to assert that input from forum members has not contributed significantly to reaching this point.

I understand your frustration. Certain overly-generalized questions get asked over and over. But I believe it’s important keep in mind that not everyone here is not the same level of experience/expertise. If you only wish to converse with those on your level or above, you are entirely free to do that. If a newbie asks "What’s the best ____" (fill in the blank) you can simply ignore it. Someone else may take the time to explain that "there is no best" or "it depends" and this bit of information alone may be extremely helpful to the newbie. In other words, it’s not always necessary to provide a "solution" for an OP’s dilemma. It’s true that sometimes an OP is not able or willing to do what is actually necessary to reach their stated goal. However, responding in a manner that deepens their understanding of the big picture can be just as valuable. You may disagree but I would not characterize such a response as "lame".

If someone asks for genuine advice on a subject/product I have experience with, I will give it honestly. 

If someone chooses to "take me to task" for said advice and has no pics of their system, and nothing other than their word on what they own (and maybe a thousand responses to posts basically all saying "cables all sound the same"), well, that's when things get dicey. Sure, they all sound the same when your equipment is sub-par and your paper-route money goes to smoking weed and downing 'shrooms.

There are so many blow-hards and wannabe's on here that it's tough (at first) to sort out the clowns. A pic of your system under your profile helps settle that.

You're never going to get good advice from someone who hasn't had any experience with a product, yet those are the ones who feel the need to shout louder than anyone else.

Far too much of that going on here......

I will approach my room and my system my way. I have "enough" experience to know that if I don't know what I'm talking about, stay out of it. If I DO happen to know what I'm talking about, I will for sure give advice freely. I know what I like, and know what sounds good to ME. TO ME. To you? Possibly....

I don't feel the need to measure my room at this point in time.

Free advice is worth what you pay for it.

Have a nice day, and happy listening.

First of all, most manufacturers don't know how to set-up speakers in a room to optimize the sound.  When my dealer friend gets in a new pair of speakers, the manufacturer always comes in and changes the positions and not for the better.

While the room is one component of the total sound, most people have equipment that they have no idea what makes them sound the way they do.  Two examples, how many have ever heard field coil speakers or a Direct Heated Triode tube component.

Audio Physics has had speaker placement set-up instructions on their website since forever.  One of our listening rooms has brick walls and I bet that we achieve better sound than most do and the room is barely treated if at all.

Happy Listening.

I've had a recording engineer who also makes speakers (I owned one of his TL-D1s) and CDs over to my place several times over the years. First thing he did was walk around, clapping his hands and checking out the corners. I asked him if I needed room treatments and he said "No, your room is fine. There's no echo." 

He even pointed up to the popcorn ceiling and smiled. I guess it's better than a smooth flat surface. It's a small room, relatively speaking, but I do sit 9' back from the speakers with the rear wall behind my head. 

Before anyone complains about reflections, remember that if the distance from your head to the rear wall is less than the circumference of your head, your ear-brain mechanism will filter out reflections. Ask any spelunker how they locate someone lost in caves. They put their back up against the rocks and listen. Besides, it takes delays of over 40ms to be perceived as an echo and that's not just gonna happen in my room.

I've also had a high end and well respected audio dealer over a few times and he enjoys my listening space. I use no room treatments at all. Sometimes with a near field listening set up you can get really good sound with not much fuss.

Recording studios are there for getting the most out of a recording and once done, there's no great need, if any, to replicate that same environment. The work is done. Sit back and enjoy the sound.

All the best,
Nonoise

A room can sound bad...

Then it must be corrected acoustically...

A living room room can sound good with no apparent defect...

Then you can live with it without doing any acoustic treatment ...It will be just ok... It will not be optimal...

A DEDICATED room can sound also OPTIMAL for a specific system and could be more than just OK...

Then even if acoustic control is not necessary because clapping your hand there is no echo , doing it will be rewarding more than any upgrade...

Small room acoustic is way more than just suppressing the echo in the room... 😊

Do not confuse these three different cases...

The gear does not replace acoustic optimization...

I understand that most people cannot do it and cannot pay someone for doing it ...

But we must say the basic truth... Acoustic is not a mere correction ....It is a process of optimization of the relation between your ears, the room and the speakers...

If i could had better speakers than my Mission Cyrus , my room optimization would have crush even my actual stunning headphone in intimacy and in all acoustic factors...