If you want lame advice DON'T do this!


Have you ever seen a member ask for advice about their system and don't understand why they need to make a change? Mistakes in this hobby are generally expensive. Does a list of components tell you how they sound together as a system? No Does a picture of a room tell you how the system sounds in the room? No. Think about the dollars that have been flushed away because the problem was the room and no matter what you stick in there or how much it cost it won't git er done. A flat in room frequency response is a starting point before changing anything. So, why don't more people post measurements when asking for advice? If you want lame advice DON'T post your system in your profile. If you want good advice post your system and a pic. If you want excellent advice include your in room FR measurements (which almost all modern receivers provide or REW can do for free). 

kota1

I'm not confusing the three cases you mentioned. I was told by professionals who've sat and listened to music for hours at my place that nothing needs to be done to improve the sound in my room.  

I understand the points you're making. I guess I'm just lucky or it could be that minimal room treatments are all anyone really needs, unless they want to make a shrine to the audio gods. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise

This is my second case...

you room was good then you were lucky...

But room optimization , my third case ,only  begin with a good room and do not end there..

Almost no one had listen to a dedicated small room , because almost no one own one...

And pro dont want to "create a ashrine to the audio Gods"...A good room is enough for most customers ...doing more will cost a fortune...

Thanks for the expression... Room optimization is a "shrine to the audio Gods"...

Ask to people who could pay 100,000 bucks for their room if their optimized room is better than just a good room or not ? They will say that there is no comparison...

Then i did not negate your point nor want to depreciate your room ... I only add what was missing for the sake of understanding and from my experience...

By the way it was so hard to create one optimized room i will never do it again... And i lack the 100,000 bucks to pay for one...

 

😊

My unesthetical room with 100 resonators and other devices was that : "a shrine to the audio God" ...

Good expression... It is better than "mad scientist lair"...

 

I’m not confusing the three cases you mentioned. I was told by professionals who’ve sat and listened to music for hours at my place that nothing needs to be done to improve the sound in my room.

I understand the points you’re making. I guess I’m just lucky or it could be that minimal room treatments are all anyone really needs, unless they want to make a shrine to the audio gods. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise

 

 

I spent about 30K on equipment which was substantial since I’m a blue collar worker. It took 8 years to get all my gear.  When I moved I decided to try room treatments so I bought about $2k worth of auralex bass traps and acoustic tiles. I brought then into the room slowly as I listened…. I found the sweet spot and stopped before I made the room dead. I have REQ and a mic but my 50 y.o. Ears don’t agree.  I tuned it to how I like it.  Visitors may find it lacking but my 30-13k hearing likes it.    To each their own…

Good post...

You tuned your room for your ears...

Now imagine you add a grid of located Helmholtz resonators also...Ionizers and schumann generators...Imagine now you use your speakers as two beams concentrated on your listening position... I did it with a foldable screen on which i place resonators and diffusers ... It is impossible to explain how to do it because it is done in an incremental way in a tuning process...

The results was a holographic room soundfield with the intimacy of headphone...

Way more powerful than buying gear...

My only problem is that it could have been better with more sophisticated speakers...

 

I spent about 30K on equipment which was substantial since I’m a blue collar worker. It took 8 years to get all my gear. When I moved I decided to try room treatments so I bought about $2k worth of auralex bass traps and acoustic tiles. I brought then into the room slowly as I listened…. I found the sweet spot and stopped before I made the room dead. I have REQ and a mic but my 50 y.o. Ears don’t agree. I tuned it to how I like it. Visitors may find it lacking but my 30-13k hearing likes it. To each their own…