If you want lame advice DON'T do this!


Have you ever seen a member ask for advice about their system and don't understand why they need to make a change? Mistakes in this hobby are generally expensive. Does a list of components tell you how they sound together as a system? No Does a picture of a room tell you how the system sounds in the room? No. Think about the dollars that have been flushed away because the problem was the room and no matter what you stick in there or how much it cost it won't git er done. A flat in room frequency response is a starting point before changing anything. So, why don't more people post measurements when asking for advice? If you want lame advice DON'T post your system in your profile. If you want good advice post your system and a pic. If you want excellent advice include your in room FR measurements (which almost all modern receivers provide or REW can do for free). 

kota1

No because i punch a dude each day between two beers...

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I stop reading books because it was too effeminate...

But i was interested in room acoustic for few years , is it bothering you ?

@mahgister

A living room room can sound good with no apparent defect...

Then you can live with it without doing any acoustic treatment ...It will be just ok... It will not be optimal...

"Not optimal" is "OK" with me; my system is "good" enough! ;o)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I perfectly understand that...And it is perfectly fine if you like your room...

 

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@mahgister

A living room room can sound good with no apparent defect...

Then you can live with it without doing any acoustic treatment ...It will be just ok... It will not be optimal...

"Not optimal" is "OK" with me; my system is "good" enough! ;o)

 

I think @jond has made the best contribution to the discussion. 🙂

@kota1 REW may be free (or a donation), but it is not easy to master if you’re not familiar with acoustic measurement taking. It’s all I can do to READ a graphical report, much less create one. I have purchased the Umike-1, downloaded the software, and managed to take a single measurement, a week went by, and now I’m starting all over again. I’ll get there, eventually. I was helped by those who responded to my ‘From Whence comes soundstage?’ and introduced me to the LEDR test. I learned I was not sitting in the proper spot in my room. If I could be comfortable straddling the arms of both my recliner and couch, my head would be in the perfect ‘sweet’ spot. 

People always talk about how bad the rooms are at audio shows and some years ago I entered one to check out some gear. The door was one of those slow closing types and music was playing so I turned to pull the door quicker than unassisted to close off the noise in the hall. 

As I was closing it with my back to the room I thought to myself, Man....that's some great sounding cello playing and when I turned around, it was Vincent Belanger playing cello in the room. A room a little bigger than my living room.

Next up were the speakers (I forget the brand) playing the same piece and damn if it didn't sound practically the same. Quite the feat and there were no room treatments in it.

Other rooms in the hall of the same size and shape just didn't seem to cut the mustard and that's when I filed in my head that the room, to a point, can have negative effects but it's the gear and the way it's set up. The rest are excuses.

All the best,
Nonoise